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« on: January 15, 2017, 10:52:01 AM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #1 on: January 15, 2017, 10:56:14 AM »

Most definitely.
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« Reply #2 on: January 15, 2017, 11:06:45 AM »

I dislike Russia, like all good hearted people, but we shouldn't break diplomatic relations.
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« Reply #3 on: January 15, 2017, 12:00:55 PM »

No. Diplomacy should not be a pawn of politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures. Bad precedent.
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« Reply #4 on: January 15, 2017, 12:24:30 PM »

No. It does not go far enough. We need a Morgenthau plan for Russia. /s
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« Reply #5 on: January 15, 2017, 12:26:47 PM »

No. Diplomacy should not be a pawn of politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures. Bad precedent.

The democratic party is officially insane. They've secluded and deluded themselves about the world so thoroughly that they've lost touch with reality.
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« Reply #6 on: January 15, 2017, 12:29:20 PM »

God no. Talking with people is how you AVOID war.

I despise the deplorable Trump-cult with a passion, but don't think we should stop talking to them. (Even if it is mostly useless, because they don't having functioning minds.) Russia is nowhere near as bad or dangerous.
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« Reply #7 on: January 15, 2017, 12:30:28 PM »

No. Diplomacy should not be a pawn of politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures. Bad precedent.

The democratic party is officially insane. They've secluded and deluded themselves about the world so thoroughly that they've lost touch with reality.

-For the most part, yes. As they say, the winning party becomes smug and complacent, the losing party insane.
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« Reply #8 on: January 15, 2017, 02:09:18 PM »

No. Diplomacy should not be a pawn of politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures. Bad precedent.

The democratic party is officially insane. They've secluded and deluded themselves about the world so thoroughly that they've lost touch with reality.

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« Reply #9 on: January 15, 2017, 02:22:38 PM »

Absolutely.  We don't want to "normalize" them.
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« Reply #10 on: January 15, 2017, 02:41:56 PM »

No, that would not be productive, but I find it disturbing how many people want to get all lovey-dovey with Russia after this year. I don't want another Cold War, but Putin is absolutely not an ally.
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« Reply #11 on: January 15, 2017, 03:10:48 PM »

God no. Talking with people is how you AVOID war.

I despise the deplorable Trump-cult with a passion, but don't think we should stop talking to them. (Even if it is mostly useless, because they don't having functioning minds.) Russia is nowhere near as bad or dangerous.

Too late.

Their side lost so now they need to find a proper scapegoat.

We should go to DEFCON 2 to teach them a lesson. /s
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« Reply #12 on: January 15, 2017, 03:19:21 PM »

LOL no.
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« Reply #13 on: January 15, 2017, 03:27:16 PM »

Of course not.
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« Reply #14 on: January 15, 2017, 03:31:19 PM »

No, this would be really dumb. Generally I think breaking off diplomatic relations is never a good idea unless you are actively at war. I think we should still have diplomatic relations with even North Korea, which is the only country that is completely unambiguously an enemy of the United States, as the point of dialogue is important for reducing the risks of escalation to open war.
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« Reply #15 on: January 15, 2017, 04:36:02 PM »



Are you crazy?

Why?
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« Reply #16 on: January 15, 2017, 04:39:45 PM »
« Edited: January 15, 2017, 04:42:40 PM by TDAS04 »

No.  I am not a fan of Russia, but breaking off diplomatic relations with China makes at least as much sense for moral reasons (not that I would support that either).
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« Reply #17 on: January 15, 2017, 04:40:09 PM »

No. Diplomacy should not be a pawn of politicians looking for scapegoats for their failures. Bad precedent.

The democratic party is officially insane. They've secluded and deluded themselves about the world so thoroughly that they've lost touch with reality.
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« Reply #18 on: January 15, 2017, 04:42:56 PM »


Because Russia is an enemy of the United States.
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« Reply #19 on: January 15, 2017, 04:49:59 PM »



You live in the past. Russia is a friend and a future ally of the United States.

China is the real problem.


Can you list any dispute we have with Russia?
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« Reply #20 on: January 15, 2017, 04:50:43 PM »



You live in the past. Russia is a friend and a future ally of the United States.

China is the real problem.


Can you list any dispute we have with Russia?


Uh, Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, South Ossetia, and the Baltics.

Also it's hideous human rights records and disgusting anti-LGBT bigotry.
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« Reply #21 on: January 15, 2017, 04:52:02 PM »

And what would this accomplish exactly?

Uh, Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, South Ossetia, and the Baltics.

By this logic of yours, France and German should have broken off diplomatic relations with the United States under GWB.
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« Reply #22 on: January 15, 2017, 04:52:58 PM »

And what would this accomplish exactly?

What did breaking off relations with Iran accomplish?
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« Reply #23 on: January 15, 2017, 04:54:39 PM »

And what would this accomplish exactly?

What did breaking off relations with Iran accomplish?

Nothing? The regime is still there and it took decades for the U.S. to understand it's not going anyway so they might just as well try to mend tensions.
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« Reply #24 on: January 15, 2017, 05:01:25 PM »



You live in the past. Russia is a friend and a future ally of the United States.

China is the real problem.


Can you list any dispute we have with Russia?


Uh, Crimea, Eastern Ukraine, South Ossetia, and the Baltics.

Also it's hideous human rights records and disgusting anti-LGBT bigotry.


Crimea used to be Russian territory before it was transferred to Ukraine by order of Nikita Khrushchev.

The population of Eastern Ukraine is majority Russian. Are you suggesting Russia should abandon them? After all, the government in Ukraine is fiercely anti-Russian. Russia didn't touch Ukraine while pro-Russian governments were in power there.

South Ossetia is ethnic Russian territory as well.

Last I heard, Russia hasn't invaded any of the Baltic States.


Human rights records are none of our business. Russians are more conservative and traditional than the other European nations, on average. Throughout history, the form of government in Russia has always been authoritarian. At least they have democracy and elections. Their democracy may not be a liberal democracy, but it's still a democracy and democracies are always better than dictatorships.
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