The president-elect's infrastructure plan: handouts to his billionaire buddies

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

https://www.washingtonpost.com/business/economy/economists-pan-infrastructure-plan-championed-by-trump-nominees/2017/01/17/0ed1ad5e-dc5e-11e6-918c-99ede3c8cafa_story.html?utm_term=.016836aff2a9

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http://www.foxbusiness.com/politics/2017/01/16/meet-men-who-will-oversee-trumps-infrastructure-plan.html

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President Pussygrabber's "plan" is to pay his billionaire buddies to loot. He wants to pay them for the right to charging the public for using public roads.  Truly deplorable.

[GlobeSoc]

Wow.

[justfollowingtheelections]

Did anyone have any doubts this was the case?
His plan all along was to loot the treasury the same way Bush and his cronies did when they handed out public money to his contractor buddies to "Rebuild" Iraq.

[Hermit For Peace]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

[Santander]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

[JA]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

... Boohoo the poor rich people, many of whom "earned" their money ripping off others, what a shame they have to pay so much back to society. I'm so glad I'm not rich and having to carry that burden.

[MasterJedi]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

[RINO Tom]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

[MasterJedi]

Silver lining: A bipartisan infrastructure bill would most likely consist of a lot of wasteful and unsustainable spending on projects that make life worse for most Americans, with funds allocated almost solely in the basis of political influence. This is without a doubt one of the issues where gridlock is preferable to federal action.

Aka all on roads and nothing on public transit. In the Milwaukee burbs public transit is considered a liberal commy plot/boondoggle. People would rather sit in cars and scream than have a train.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

[MasterJedi]

Silver lining: A bipartisan infrastructure bill would most likely consist of a lot of wasteful and unsustainable spending on projects that make life worse for most Americans, with funds allocated almost solely in the basis of political influence. This is without a doubt one of the issues where gridlock is preferable to federal action.

Aka all on roads and nothing on public transit. In the Milwaukee burbs public transit is considered a liberal commy plot/boondoggle. People would rather sit in cars and scream than have a train.

Largely, yes, but even within highway spending, federal money tends to be poorly managed: Building new roads (that states and localities will never have enough money to maintain) instead of repairing old ones, for instance, or supporting divided highways (euphemistically called "interstates" even though most new construction is to support increased commuter traffic) instead of "Complete Streets"-style multi-modal projects.

The same applies to water and sewer. You're more likely to see federal funds going toward projects that support new development instead of replacing lead water pipes or updating hazardous combined sewer systems in central cities and older villages.

Wisconsin repealed it's "complete streets" because biking is a commie plot as well when in reality all major streets should have protected bike lanes.

Milwaukee could also use that money for lead pipe removal in the city, and yet again the burbs are "let new Detroit (when the city is booming and growing again) die and who cares".

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Xu6Yz7wXnaM

[Frodo]

Silver lining: A bipartisan infrastructure bill would most likely consist of a lot of wasteful and unsustainable spending on projects that make life worse for most Americans, with funds allocated almost solely in the basis of political influence. This is without a doubt one of the issues where gridlock is preferable to federal action.

Aka all on roads and nothing on public transit. In the Milwaukee burbs public transit is considered a liberal commy plot/boondoggle. People would rather sit in cars and scream than have a train.

Largely, yes, but even within highway spending, federal money tends to be poorly managed: Building new roads (that states and localities will never have enough money to maintain) instead of repairing old ones, for instance, or supporting divided highways (euphemistically called "interstates" even though most new construction is to support increased commuter traffic) instead of "Complete Streets"-style multi-modal projects.

The same applies to water and sewer. You're more likely to see federal funds going toward projects that support new development instead of replacing lead water pipes or updating hazardous combined sewer systems in central cities and older villages.

Even with these shortcomings, we need to get going on reinvesting in our infrastructure sooner or later.  We can't keep coasting on past accomplishments forever.  Though perhaps any infrastructure bill would be better off with Democrats back controlling the trifecta (House, Senate, White House).    

[RINO Tom]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

[The_Doctor]

Everyone pays taxes to some degree, whether it's payroll or income taxes. Non-payroll taxes are reported from every income subset. Net income taxes probably come from every bracket, too.

[Green Line]

The infrastructure is falling apart.  We need a real stimulus bill that focuses on fixing the bridges ASAP.

[Meclazine for Israel]

"hand out $137 billion worth of tax credits to private businesses"

What Donald is doing is saying that this money is better in the hands of business to create jobs and stimulate the economy rather than throw it into the government kitty.

There is a balance, and this government clearly thinks that business has been over-regulated and taxed to death. This ultimately hurts employment.

Try starting a company and employing one person. Just try it and see how long you last. It's not until you have to pay someone's wages that you truly understand how limiting over-regulation and high tax rates kill you as a business person.

[RINO Tom]

"hand out $137 billion worth of tax credits to private businesses"

What Donald is doing is saying that this money is better in the hands of business to create jobs and stimulate the economy rather than throw it into the government kitty.

There is a balance, and this government clearly thinks that business has been over-regulated and taxed to death. This ultimately hurts employment.

Try starting a company and employing one person. Just try it and see how long you last. It's not until you have to pay someone's wages that you truly understand how limiting over-regulation and high tax rates kill you as a business person.

They know, they just don't care.

[pbrower2a]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

The rich are the ones who grab the wealth and keep it.The biggest sources of wealth come from owning huge tracts of farmland (the feudal way), gouging the customer, keeping workers overworked and underpaid, and getting huge breaks from the government.

[Higgs]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

I think he means the poor pay more in taxes as a proportion of their total capital than the rich.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Can we get back to the fact it's not just handouts but the fact it's handouts for projects already underway?

[justfollowingtheelections]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

I take it you worship the rich?

[Santander]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

I take it you worship the rich?

Yes, because the only alternative to demonizing the rich is deifying them, right?

[justfollowingtheelections]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

I take it you worship the rich?

Yes, because the only alternative to demonizing the rich is deifying them, right?

No one's demonizing them.  We're only pointing out facts.