The president-elect's infrastructure plan: handouts to his billionaire buddies

[MasterJedi]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

I think he means the poor pay more in taxes as a proportion of their total capital than the rich.

Correct, the poor and middle class pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes.

[Enduro]

That's not free market, that's forced market. Government shouldn't give money away (money it takes from the people), it should step out of the way, and let businesses succeed on their own merit.

[RINO Tom]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

I think he means the poor pay more in taxes as a proportion of their total capital than the rich.

Correct, the poor and middle class pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes.

Don't a lot of them not even have to pay income taxes?  Even if they are only paying their state income taxes and the wealthy are taking advantage of loopholes, I struggle to see how that math evens out.

[ag]

That's not free market, that's forced market. Government shouldn't give money away (money it takes from the people), it should step out of the way, and let businesses succeed on their own merit.

Why are you surprised? US is now going to be governed by a National-Socialist administration. Naturally, the economy will be planned.

[RINO Tom]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

I think he means the poor pay more in taxes as a proportion of their total capital than the rich.

Correct, the poor and middle class pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes.

Don't a lot of them not even have to pay income taxes?  Even if they are only paying their state income taxes and the wealthy are taking advantage of loopholes, I struggle to see how that math evens out.

He referred to tax burden as a percentage of income, not income taxes.

I mean, I guess for some the top bracket of income couldn't catch up enough to get the effective rate that high, but I still fail to see how this works.  There are tons of people - almost all of them "poor" - who pay nothing at all.  How are they paying a higher percent of their income?

[Santander]

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

Yes, and pay less overall than the middle class and the poor.

I mean, that's just not true.

Then it seems like your deluting yourself. Do Republicans seriously not do research about their own party? They care about their rich donors, no one else.

What "research" haven't I done?  Poor Americans do not pay more in taxes than (what we have decided are) rich Americans, that's literally a false statement.

I think he means the poor pay more in taxes as a proportion of their total capital than the rich.

Correct, the poor and middle class pay a higher proportion of their income in taxes.

Don't a lot of them not even have to pay income taxes?  Even if they are only paying their state income taxes and the wealthy are taking advantage of loopholes, I struggle to see how that math evens out.

He referred to tax burden as a percentage of income, not income taxes.

I mean, I guess for some the top bracket of income couldn't catch up enough to get the effective rate that high, but I still fail to see how this works.  There are tons of people - almost all of them "poor" - who pay nothing at all.  How are they paying a higher percent of their income?

It is almost impossible to pay no taxes at all, even if you don't consider payroll taxes to be a true tax (which I don't).

Of course, that doesn't justify the class warfare rhetoric of many on the left in this thread.

[Higgs]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

I take it you worship the rich?

Yes, because the only alternative to demonizing the rich is deifying them, right?

No one's demonizing them.  We're only pointing out facts.

Sure...

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

... Boohoo the poor rich people, many of whom "earned" their money ripping off others, what a shame they have to pay so much back to society. I'm so glad I'm not rich and having to carry that burden.

[justfollowingtheelections]

That's not free market, that's forced market. Government shouldn't give money away (money it takes from the people), it should step out of the way, and let businesses succeed on their own merit.

I call it corporatism.

[justfollowingtheelections]

And the demonization of the rich continues. Never change, lefties, never change.

I take it you worship the rich?

Yes, because the only alternative to demonizing the rich is deifying them, right?

No one's demonizing them.  We're only pointing out facts.

Sure...

Makes me wonder why anyone other than the rich EVER votes Republican. Theirs is the same old story. Rob from the poor and give to the rich. Yawn.

The rich are the ones who pay the taxes to begin with.

... Boohoo the poor rich people, many of whom "earned" their money ripping off others, what a shame they have to pay so much back to society. I'm so glad I'm not rich and having to carry that burden.

I don't see anything wrong with Jacobin's statement.