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« on: January 17, 2017, 10:08:23 PM »

http://finance.yahoo.com/news/op-ed-why-elizabeth-warren-145743959.html

It's a good read. She's a one-trick-pony so far, and people are noticing.
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« Reply #1 on: January 17, 2017, 10:19:54 PM »

She has the same defective personality that cost Gore, Kerry, and Clinton
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« Reply #2 on: January 17, 2017, 10:40:50 PM »
« Edited: January 17, 2017, 10:46:09 PM by Crumpets »

Lol.

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Wouldn't being the "antithesis of all she proclaimed to stand against" logically mean that they were in lock-step agreement on those issues? I don't think the author knows what that word means.
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« Reply #3 on: January 17, 2017, 10:44:51 PM »

The person who wrote that article clearly isn't a progressive if they think that campaigning for Clinton in the general election is a bad thing.

Anyway, Warren is a bad idea for the candidate, but not for any of those reasons.
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« Reply #4 on: January 17, 2017, 11:40:11 PM »

The person who wrote that article clearly isn't a progressive if they think that campaigning for Clinton in the general election is a bad thing.

Anyway, Warren is a bad idea for the candidate, but not for any of those reasons.
When your own state hates you it's usually a lot harder to sell yourself to the rest of the country.
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 12:18:56 AM »

Warren isn't charismatic. She's another boring Massachusetts liberal, and they've failed far too often. She's a good progressive, but she doesn't have enough appeal on a broad range of issues, she is too focused on financial reform and that one issue. She doesn't have what it takes to win in 2020 and switch the results from 2020, she won't get minority turnout up, she won't flip college-educated whites, and she won't appeal to non college-educated whites and the WWC in the Rust Belt. I think a dark horse will win in 2020, someone on the back of the radar now, given that like 2016 for the GOP, there is no clear frontrunner and it is an open field.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 12:30:35 AM »

Listen to Warren's speech against Andrew Puzder before you write her off.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 12:45:16 AM »

Warren isn't charismatic. She's another boring Massachusetts liberal, and they've failed far too often. She's a good progressive, but she doesn't have enough appeal on a broad range of issues, she is too focused on financial reform and that one issue. She doesn't have what it takes to win in 2020 and switch the results from 2020, she won't get minority turnout up, she won't flip college-educated whites, and she won't appeal to non college-educated whites and the WWC in the Rust Belt. I think a dark horse will win in 2020, someone on the back of the radar now, given that like 2016 for the GOP, there is no clear frontrunner and it is an open field.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 01:43:37 AM »

50/50 odds on the 2020 Democratic primary ending before Democrats are done relitigating the 2016 primary.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 11:02:11 AM »

The person who wrote that article clearly isn't a progressive if they think that campaigning for Clinton in the general election is a bad thing.

Anyway, Warren is a bad idea for the candidate, but not for any of those reasons.
When your own state hates you it's usually a lot harder to sell yourself to the rest of the country.

Huh

Warren has a 61% approval rating in Massachusetts.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 11:05:09 AM »

This isn't even worthy of a thread tbh- it's just another berniebro upset that she didn't endorse Bernie and allow him to lose by 0.5 rather than 1% in the primary in Massachusetts.

It's like when tons of Corbyn fans in the UK claimed they'd never vote for Sadiq Khan because he didn't support corbyn in the leadership challenge- it's short sighted, and petty politics
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 11:25:45 AM »

The person who wrote that article clearly isn't a progressive if they think that campaigning for Clinton in the general election is a bad thing.

Anyway, Warren is a bad idea for the candidate, but not for any of those reasons.
When your own state hates you it's usually a lot harder to sell yourself to the rest of the country.
Huh

Warren has a 61% approval rating in Massachusetts.

Don't you see Warren's unpopularity among the several "MA for Curt Schilling" Facebook groups. Tongue
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 03:13:49 PM »

She's not stable.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 06:59:25 PM »

Deranged Bernie Bros like this author should be ignored, or preferably institutionalized.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 07:03:14 PM »

They will not stop until Karl Marx himself rises from the dead and runs.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 07:16:35 PM »

When your election is next year in a state that's almost-swing for statewide elections (see gubernatorial elections), this is not good for you when you didn't win by that much.
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 09:36:10 PM »

When your election is next year in a state that's almost-swing for statewide elections (see gubernatorial elections), this is not good for you when you didn't win by that much.

Nah.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2017, 01:14:40 AM »

When your election is next year in a state that's almost-swing for statewide elections (see gubernatorial elections), this is not good for you when you didn't win by that much.

Gubernatorial=/=Senate, and she was running against a popular incumbent in 2012 which is why it was as close as it was.

Also, all of that is circumstantial and doesn't change the fact that she has high approvals.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2017, 03:15:30 AM »

This isn't even worthy of a thread tbh- it's just another berniebro upset that she didn't endorse Bernie and allow him to lose by 0.5 rather than 1% in the primary in Massachusetts.

It's like when tons of Corbyn fans in the UK claimed they'd never vote for Sadiq Khan because he didn't support corbyn in the leadership challenge- it's short sighted, and petty politics

Oh please, you act like it's Bernie supporters who have the petty politics. They aren't the ones who spent millions of dollars in the Senate primary for a race they then lost (PA-Sen) because of a stupid 6 year old vendetta against someone who ran against their chosen candidate in the primary then. It's the Clintons with the enemy list. I bet that played into her not choosing Warren as her running mate, Warren was the one female Senate Democrat to not endorse Hillary in the primary, and they're all about identity politics.
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2017, 11:18:44 AM »

As I stated numerous times last summer, Warren would be a great #2 (for Clinton), but a terrible #1. I don't think she stands a chance against a halfway decent republican. Of course, Trump is likely running for reelection in 2020, so all bets are off.
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