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« on: January 18, 2017, 03:33:53 AM »

http://bipartisanreport.com/2017/01/17/crowd-calls-bullsht-on-gop-congresswoman-who-voted-to-repeal-obamacare-video/

The revolution is beginning to take shape.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 04:29:55 AM »


Wonderful! Let's see many more rallies like that.

And GOP let's be clear, you are going to get the boot if you don't keep health care in place for your American family. We're counting on you to do the right thing.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 08:27:01 AM »

The vapid and empty text of Cathy's speech didn't help. I would have booed her just for that. If I want froth I buy a beer. I don't want it in a speech. It's insulting to the audience, implying that the speaker thinks they are a bunch of dumbs.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 08:49:35 AM »

One more time and I'll call this a pattern.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 11:00:59 AM »

Cathy could be vulnerable. The best Dem would be somebody not named Joe Pakootas or Ben Stuckart
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 12:07:36 PM »

Get her the hell out of office.  She's terrible.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 01:34:36 PM »

McMorris-Rogers is generally well-respected by Washington moderates because she has a no-nonsense, "let's get down to business" approach to legislating. Patty Murray has the same role on the other side of the aisle. I think Torie hit the nail on the head. It's not so much the fact that she wants to repeal Obamacare that got her heckled, it's that she's clearly cozying up to Trump for personal gain, rather than trying to be a conservative voice for reform.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 02:19:36 PM »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 02:35:03 PM »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.

I concur. The only question that remains is how that backlash manifests. If the Democrats prove that they haven't learned enough, then imagine the despair of the populace when they sense that both political parties and even a foolishly believed outsider don't have their best interests at heart; that no genuine, positive reform is on the horizon.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 02:47:53 PM »
« Edited: January 18, 2017, 02:51:08 PM by putins lapdog »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.

I concur. The only question that remains is how that backlash manifests. If the Democrats prove that they haven't learned enough, then imagine the despair of the populace when they sense that both political parties and even a foolishly believed outsider don't have their best interests at heart; that no genuine, positive reform is on the horizon.

I guess it depends on who becomes DNC Chairman.  If Ellison wins, Bernie will be touring the country organizing rallies on healthcare, education and other issues.  If Perez wins, the Democratic response will be super-expensive dinners with Clooney and other mega donors.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 03:00:28 PM »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.

I concur. The only question that remains is how that backlash manifests. If the Democrats prove that they haven't learned enough, then imagine the despair of the populace when they sense that both political parties and even a foolishly believed outsider don't have their best interests at heart; that no genuine, positive reform is on the horizon.

I guess it depends on who becomes DNC Chairman.  If Ellison wins, Bernie will be touring the country organizing rallies on healthcare, education and other issues.  If Perez wins, the Democratic response will be super-expensive dinners with Clooney and other mega donors.
Well Perez is not winning so Bernie rallies it is
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 03:05:09 PM »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.

I concur. The only question that remains is how that backlash manifests. If the Democrats prove that they haven't learned enough, then imagine the despair of the populace when they sense that both political parties and even a foolishly believed outsider don't have their best interests at heart; that no genuine, positive reform is on the horizon.

I guess it depends on who becomes DNC Chairman.  If Ellison wins, Bernie will be touring the country organizing rallies on healthcare, education and other issues.  If Perez wins, the Democratic response will be super-expensive dinners with Clooney and other mega donors.

I support Ellison, but the idea that Perez is some insider big money corporatist hack is hilarious.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 06:47:24 PM »

I wonder if a formidable backlash could be brewing. If you go by the polls at least, it seems like by mid-late 2009 popular opinion had already turned on Democrats. It's conceivable we see a similar reaction here.

Obviously it is too soon to say one way or another, but given the nature of Trump, his deep unpopularity and the current GOP agenda, I think all the pieces are there for one.

I concur. The only question that remains is how that backlash manifests. If the Democrats prove that they haven't learned enough, then imagine the despair of the populace when they sense that both political parties and even a foolishly believed outsider don't have their best interests at heart; that no genuine, positive reform is on the horizon.

We got lucky with Trump. His lack of self-control and daily insults will only whip up the left unlike anyone before. Nixon and Bush whipped up the left but they acted too decent so it didnt have much effect. Trump on the other hand is not a decent person but a genuine terrible human being and bully.

Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends who were apolitical now participating due to Trump

I expect that there will be 'high' turnout in the midterms if this does mobilize the apolitical.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 06:55:10 PM »

I distinctly remember doing this stuff in 2010 and being called "astroturf." Now it's a revolution. Lame.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 07:05:43 PM »

We got lucky with Trump. His lack of self-control and daily insults will only whip up the left unlike anyone before. Nixon and Bush whipped up the left but they acted too decent so it didnt have much effect. Trump on the other hand is not a decent person but a genuine terrible human being and bully.

Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends who were apolitical now participating due to Trump

I expect that there will be 'high' turnout in the midterms if this does mobilize the apolitical.

Plus potentially driving independents to Democrats in droves. A good year for Democrats will also come down to winning over other various groups. This is what puzzles me so much about the GOP right now - why go so hard on healthcare right out of the gate? Just talking about changing Medicare, let alone actually doing it, will inevitably stir up old voters - people Republicans disproportionately rely on. If they bungle this repeal-and-replace, the GOP will be blamed when millions lose their health insurance and/or premiums skyrocket. It would be a political disaster. It really would have made more sense to punt this issue until after the 2018 midterms so they would have had 2 years to make a slew of smaller policy changes that don't light a fire under the electorate's collective butts. Instead, they are fixing to overreach like crazy. Surely they must understand they are playing with fire right now?

At any rate, it is encouraging to see increasing amounts of energy regarding all of this. As I was saying before, it really seems like all the pieces of a backlash puzzle are on the table. We just need to put it together now.
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 07:34:33 PM »

We got lucky with Trump. His lack of self-control and daily insults will only whip up the left unlike anyone before. Nixon and Bush whipped up the left but they acted too decent so it didnt have much effect. Trump on the other hand is not a decent person but a genuine terrible human being and bully.

Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends who were apolitical now participating due to Trump

I expect that there will be 'high' turnout in the midterms if this does mobilize the apolitical.

Plus potentially driving independents to Democrats in droves. A good year for Democrats will also come down to winning over other various groups. This is what puzzles me so much about the GOP right now - why go so hard on healthcare right out of the gate? Just talking about changing Medicare, let alone actually doing it, will inevitably stir up old voters - people Republicans disproportionately rely on. If they bungle this repeal-and-replace, the GOP will be blamed when millions lose their health insurance and/or premiums skyrocket. It would be a political disaster. It really would have made more sense to punt this issue until after the 2018 midterms so they would have had 2 years to make a slew of smaller policy changes that don't light a fire under the electorate's collective butts. Instead, they are fixing to overreach like crazy. Surely they must understand they are playing with fire right now?

At any rate, it is encouraging to see increasing amounts of energy regarding all of this. As I was saying before, it really seems like all the pieces of a backlash puzzle are on the table. We just need to put it together now.

Why care about the voters when even if you are a rep that loses in 2018 the corporations will give large rewards for loosening regulations and screwing the poor?
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 07:37:09 PM »

We got lucky with Trump. His lack of self-control and daily insults will only whip up the left unlike anyone before. Nixon and Bush whipped up the left but they acted too decent so it didnt have much effect. Trump on the other hand is not a decent person but a genuine terrible human being and bully.

Never in my life have I seen so many of my friends who were apolitical now participating due to Trump

I expect that there will be 'high' turnout in the midterms if this does mobilize the apolitical.

Plus potentially driving independents to Democrats in droves. A good year for Democrats will also come down to winning over other various groups. This is what puzzles me so much about the GOP right now - why go so hard on healthcare right out of the gate? Just talking about changing Medicare, let alone actually doing it, will inevitably stir up old voters - people Republicans disproportionately rely on. If they bungle this repeal-and-replace, the GOP will be blamed when millions lose their health insurance and/or premiums skyrocket. It would be a political disaster. It really would have made more sense to punt this issue until after the 2018 midterms so they would have had 2 years to make a slew of smaller policy changes that don't light a fire under the electorate's collective butts. Instead, they are fixing to overreach like crazy. Surely they must understand they are playing with fire right now?

At any rate, it is encouraging to see increasing amounts of energy regarding all of this. As I was saying before, it really seems like all the pieces of a backlash puzzle are on the table. We just need to put it together now.

Also if the white senior vote goes for democrats or even a narrow loss, because of a medicare backlash, the house is gone for the GOP, and the gerrymander is backfiring massively and causing the majority of state delegations to be majority democratic.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 08:59:50 PM »

There's been a backlash brewing since November 9th. The more these people are ignored and/or mocked, the bigger it's going to get. She's definitely facing this as a result not only to her vote against Obamacare, but her defense of Trump after Pussygate.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 09:00:55 PM »

Sounds like Democrats are DESPERATELY trying to craft the narrative that it's "2009 all over again".  #Sad #Unoriginal
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 09:03:28 PM »

Sounds like Democrats are DESPERATELY trying to craft the narrative that it's "2009 all over again".  #Sad #Unoriginal
You're right, it'll be a lot worse this time.
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« Reply #20 on: January 18, 2017, 09:24:05 PM »

Sounds like Democrats are DESPERATELY trying to craft the narrative that it's "2009 all over again".  #Sad #Unoriginal

regarding healthcare - and only healthcare - this is at least possible, IF ryan really is trying to push through his kind of reforms.
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