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« on: January 18, 2017, 10:05:32 AM »

Due to Donald Trump's presidency, will we witness the emergence of a leftist version of the Tea Party that would have the objective of orienting the Democratic Party more to the left.

And would it encourage the nomination of a presidential candidate in Bernie Sanders' style or Bernie Sanders himself in 2020?
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 11:24:25 AM »

I have a feeling it's already happening. There's plenty of leftist news sources like TYT, Humanist Report and Secular Talk that are already popular, and you have growing podcasts like Chapo Trap House and Cumtown. I have a good feeling you'll have a ton of "Green Tea Party"ers in public office by 2018.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 02:11:52 PM »

Most Likely.   And if the Trump administration continues on the hellhole path it's on, thank goodness there will be leftist Tea Party.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 02:17:30 PM »

There was a 'Coffee Party' thing a few years ago IIRC.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 03:17:10 PM »

You never know.  There basically is one consisting of people like Bernie Sanders and Elizabeth Warren. 
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 03:20:15 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 03:25:36 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.

What type of law?
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 03:35:28 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.

What type of law?

Haven't applied yet, and won't at least through the 2018 election cycle, but I'm thinking some form of small scale transactional general practice
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 03:36:52 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.

What type of law?

Haven't applied yet, and won't at least through the 2018 election cycle, but I'm thinking some form of small scale transactional general practice

You'd like to start a liberal version of the tea party?
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 03:49:01 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.

What type of law?

Haven't applied yet, and won't at least through the 2018 election cycle, but I'm thinking some form of small scale transactional general practice

You'd like to start a liberal version of the tea party?

start is a strong word (not THAT much of an ego) but I definitely think it should happen and will help anyone working toward it.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 03:56:26 PM »

>Am actively devoting my pre law school professional life to trying to make this a reality.

What type of law?

Haven't applied yet, and won't at least through the 2018 election cycle, but I'm thinking some form of small scale transactional general practice

You'd like to start a liberal version of the tea party?

start is a strong word (not THAT much of an ego) but I definitely think it should happen and will help anyone working toward it.

You already basically have it among half of elected Democrats in the House and Senate.  While I strongly disagree with Bernie Sanders he at least had conviction and stood for something.  Him and Elizabeth Warren would be part of your tea party wing while Chuck Schumer and Joe Biden would be more establishment candidates.  I wouldn't mind seeing these left and right wings become part of the same bird either.  For example, I can get behind lowering the cost of college tuition and healthcare even if it means raising taxes.  Other things are income gaps, minimum wage being a few dollars higher, and prison reform. 
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 05:00:21 PM »

The real reason the Democrats need their own Tea Party is to prevent the Establishment Dems from going full Globalist to counter Trump's Republican Nationalist movement.  

The Democratic Party should not be Globalist, and I really do think that's what the Establishment elite in the party want for the big donor bucks.  

Globalist vs Nationalist is a losing ideological battle in the US...it won't work.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 05:05:36 PM »

The real reason the Democrats need their own Tea Party is to prevent the Establishment Dems from going full Globalist to counter Trump's Republican Nationalist movement.  

The Democratic Party should not be Globalist, and I really do think that's what the Establishment elite in the party want for the big donor bucks.  

Globalist vs Nationalist is a losing ideological battle in the US...it won't work.

Yea like Clinton getting money from countries that sponsor terrorism.
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 06:01:43 PM »

Maybe. But probably not.

The Tea Party were mostly a "small government" clique to the extreme.  They couldn't be swayed by stuff.  Democrats are big government types and Trump is a big government Republican, so it's very likely that Trump could offer them something to get them to cave.
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 06:03:42 PM »

The real reason the Democrats need their own Tea Party is to prevent the Establishment Dems from going full Globalist to counter Trump's Republican Nationalist movement.  

The Democratic Party should not be Globalist, and I really do think that's what the Establishment elite in the party want for the big donor bucks.  

Globalist vs Nationalist is a losing ideological battle in the US...it won't work.

Yea like Clinton getting money from countries that sponsor terrorism.
We are Nationalist until something happens and then we are not for a few years. See WW1(for about 2 years) and WW2
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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 06:47:12 PM »

Maybe. But probably not.

The Tea Party were mostly a "small government" clique to the extreme.  They couldn't be swayed by stuff.  Democrats are big government types and Trump is a big government Republican, so it's very likely that Trump could offer them something to get them to cave.


That's an awful description, and not remotely accurate.

The two parties (and voting coalitions) are further apart then they ever have been.   
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« Reply #16 on: January 18, 2017, 07:43:37 PM »

We already have the BernieBros which I can see turn as ugly as the Tea Party/Alt-Right.
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« Reply #17 on: January 18, 2017, 07:46:17 PM »

Yes, but it's a reason why I am a hard core centrist. Purists on both sides are crazed. I am beholden to no one. I speak the truth. I offend both sides and I am so proud.
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« Reply #18 on: January 18, 2017, 08:10:14 PM »

Yes, but it's a reason why I am a hard core centrist.

A "hard core" centrist?  Is that like ordering a drink whose size is "extra medium"?
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« Reply #19 on: January 18, 2017, 08:19:17 PM »

Maybe, but I think the reports of a Democratic schism are greatly exaggerated. For example, we won't have some Bernie bro turfing out Senators like McCaskill and Heitkamp for being too moderate and then losing the general in a landslide. It might happen in some safe-D districts, but the Democrats have more of a spectrum of beliefs, rather than several discrete and competing groups like the Republicans have with the religious right, business conservatives, Paulites, Trumpists, etc.
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 04:09:43 AM »

Yes, but it would probably have less influence than the original Tea Party.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 04:36:57 AM »

Maybe, but I think the reports of a Democratic schism are greatly exaggerated. For example, we won't have some Bernie bro turfing out Senators like McCaskill and Heitkamp for being too moderate and then losing the general in a landslide. It might happen in some safe-D districts, but the Democrats have more of a spectrum of beliefs, rather than several discrete and competing groups like the Republicans have with the religious right, business conservatives, Paulites, Trumpists, etc.

Yes, this is why I don't think there'll be a leftist Tea Party for those reasons you outlined. Democrats are (or at least claim to be) a big tent party where liberals, moderates, and conservatives are welcomed. Remember that the Tea Party cost Republicans the Senate majority in 2010 when nutjobs like O'Donnell, Angle, and Buck were nominated (and in 2012 also with Todd Akin and Richard Mourdock). They don't need to be out there engaging in Berniebot tactics and going against moderate/conservative/jfern-like "neoliberal warmongering corporatist" red state Democrats only to have them lose the primary and then the Republican candidate handily win those seats. The Tea Party was more united in their hatred of Obama and "hands off my health care," which motivated them to turn out and vote.
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 09:37:05 AM »

Probably not identical, but there will be a bat**** insane "leftist" movement rearing its ugly head in the next few years.
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 10:07:34 AM »

Probably not identical, but there will be a bat**** insane "leftist" movement rearing its ugly head in the next few years.

What's insane about believing in climate change, having better regulations on big banks, and supporting women's reproductive rights?
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 10:09:55 AM »

The real reason the Democrats need their own Tea Party is to prevent the Establishment Dems from going full Globalist to counter Trump's Republican Nationalist movement.  

The Democratic Party should not be Globalist, and I really do think that's what the Establishment elite in the party want for the big donor bucks.  

Globalist vs Nationalist is a losing ideological battle in the US...it won't work.

I'm already seeing some of my Dem friends say stuff like "globalization is inevitable, you can't bring jobs back".
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