How would John Kasich have done against Hillary Clinton?
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« on: January 18, 2017, 05:28:36 PM »
I think that he would've done much better than Donald Trump against Hillary Clinton because he doesn't have a sh**load of scandals and doesn't have a bull-in-the-china-shop personality.
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« Reply #1 on: January 18, 2017, 06:11:25 PM »
Kasich would have lost.

Kasich would not have won over the key white voters in MI, WI, and PA that Trump won over. 

Kasich also came off as a phony.  His informality seemed fake, contrived.  He'd have done well, but he would not have won over the folks he needed to win over to win it all.
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« Reply #2 on: January 18, 2017, 06:25:04 PM »
Quote from: Fuzzy Bear on January 18, 2017, 06:11:25 PM
Kasich would have lost.

Kasich would not have won over the key white voters in MI, WI, and PA that Trump won over. 

Kasich also came off as a phony.  His informality seemed fake, contrived.  He'd have done well, but he would not have won over the folks he needed to win over to win it all.

Wow. I've never read an analysis more wrong.
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« Reply #3 on: January 18, 2017, 06:45:25 PM »
He would have, imho, a similar appeal to Mitt Romney. But Clinton wasn't Obama. So it would depend on his choice of running mate and campaign axis.
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« Reply #4 on: January 18, 2017, 06:58:08 PM »
Probably would have won easily, he was leading Clinton by mid-high single digits in the primaries
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« Reply #5 on: January 18, 2017, 07:02:17 PM »
Kasich, unlike Sanders, was completely untested, not winning even one primary outside his home state. I suspect he would have won at least New Hampshire, but the median Obama-Kasich voter would have been much more college-educated than the median Obama-Trump voter.
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« Reply #6 on: January 18, 2017, 09:20:02 PM »
He would have been boxed in as another Romney and I do not imagine Trump accepting the primary loss. Winning his home state would not translate to the rest of the rust belt so a narrow defeat.
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« Reply #7 on: January 18, 2017, 10:31:21 PM »
I supported Kasich but I have to admit that Trump accessed some segments of the electorate that no one else could reach.

Kasich would have done better in the national popular vote, besting Trump's totals in the Houston and Dallas suburbs, The OC, SLC, Chicagoland, Atlanta burbs, etc. - but I can't see him picking up nearly as many of the voters driven by blue collar angst that drove Trump's victories in MI and PA.
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« Reply #8 on: January 18, 2017, 10:32:32 PM »
No way Kasich loses Wisconsin. No way.
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« Reply #9 on: January 18, 2017, 10:36:17 PM »
Hillary was an extremely unpopular candidate.  She lost to Donald Trump.  Anyone competent would have beat her in a landslide.
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« Reply #10 on: January 18, 2017, 11:00:38 PM »
Quote from: Representative Carpetbagger on January 18, 2017, 10:36:17 PM
Hillary was an extremely unpopular candidate.  She lost to Donald Trump.  Anyone competent would have beat her in a landslide.

This.  Trump had an impressive win, but his supporters (and Hillary's supporters, ironically) re-envisioning him as this special candidate that was the only one who could have won to fit their agendas is stupid as .
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« Reply #11 on: January 18, 2017, 11:11:01 PM »
Kasich wouldn't have won Michigan. Wisconsin and Pennsylvania, maybe. But he would have won all the other Trump states (including ME-2), plus NH and CO, so he wouldn't have needed WI/PA anyways.
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« Reply #12 on: January 18, 2017, 11:13:20 PM »

350: John Kasich/Condoleeza Rice - 53.0%
188: Hillary Clinton/Jack Markell - 44.9%
Others - 2.1%
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« Reply #13 on: January 18, 2017, 11:28:03 PM »
10-12 point victory meaning even state like Oregon flip
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« Reply #14 on: January 18, 2017, 11:44:34 PM »
Quote from: Old School Republican on January 18, 2017, 11:28:03 PM
10-12 point victory meaning even state like Oregon flip

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« Reply #15 on: January 18, 2017, 11:59:05 PM »
Quote from: Kingpoleon, Never The Best/Worst Poster on January 18, 2017, 11:13:20 PM

350: John Kasich/Condoleeza Rice - 53.0%
188: Hillary Clinton/Jack Markell - 44.9%
Others - 2.1%

Lol @ kasich winning Maine.
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« Reply #16 on: January 19, 2017, 12:29:31 AM »
Kasich would have lost.

No candidate but Trump could have won against Hillary.
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« Reply #17 on: January 19, 2017, 12:32:22 AM »

What's so ridiculous about this? Trump was a good fit for ME-02, but a terrible one for ME-01. Kasich definitely could have come close.
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« Reply #18 on: January 19, 2017, 12:37:35 AM »
Probably would have won narrowly in the popular vote, flipping New Hampshire and maaaaaybe Minnesota.
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« Reply #19 on: January 19, 2017, 12:41:09 AM »
Quote from: Intell on January 18, 2017, 11:44:34 PM
Quote from: Old School Republican on January 18, 2017, 11:28:03 PM
10-12 point victory meaning even state like Oregon flip

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Oregon is 8-9 more dem then nation so 10-11 point GOP victory means Oregon goes gop
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« Reply #20 on: January 19, 2017, 02:13:49 AM »


Hillary wins everything she aimed for.
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« Reply #21 on: January 19, 2017, 02:21:24 AM »


Kasich/Martinez 362 55%
Hillary/Kaine 176  44%


I think even Walker would get 300+ electoral votes
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« Reply #22 on: January 19, 2017, 12:11:31 PM »
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« Reply #23 on: January 19, 2017, 12:13:10 PM »
« Edited: January 19, 2017, 12:16:40 PM by Santander »

Clinton - 274
Kasich - 264

This is his best-case scenario.
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« Reply #24 on: January 19, 2017, 12:38:45 PM »
Quote from: Santander on January 19, 2017, 12:13:10 PM

Clinton - 274
Kasich - 264

This is his best-case scenario.

Yeah... no, it really isn't. You people need to stop with the revisionism. Trump was a very flawed candidate who beat another very flawed candidate, he wasn't the only one who could have won.

Also lol@MormDem's map. Could you get any more hackish than that?
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