Trump has a different approach to lying

[BlueSwan]

Let's be real for a second here. Lying is in a sense an integral part of politics. But let's also realize that there are conventions surrounding lying in politics. Everybody knows that as a politican you often have to avoid telling the absolute truth. But there is also in almost every politican, the sense that you cannot just tell an outright blatant lie. Avoiding telling the truth is OK. Even saying something deliberately misleading without actually lying directly, is considered necessary at times and most politicians have done it.

What we are witnessing with Trump is making the lies the campaign itself. There is no shame in the lying. If caught lying, Trump and his people just double down on the lying and calls the people that call them out untrustworthy. No backtracking ever. And they lie about even the most petty things like crowd sizes, polls and probably penis sizes. People seem to love that Trump never backtracks, that he stays "real". But there is nothing "real" about chronically lying and never admitting it. It is quite amazing and disturbing to watch. This is third world dictator stuff, that we've usually joked about in the western world. This is Baghdad Bob. This is Kim-Jong Un. This is something that should not be able to happen in a western county in 2017. Wake up people.

[Meclazine for Israel]

Trump manipulates the media with gusto.

https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2017/01/the-pointless-needless-lies-of-the-trump-administration/514061/

By the time CNN spends three days disproving some irrelevant factoid, you then realise that he has just diverted the media's attention from the actual issues he does not want them talking about.

His Twitter account is pure genius, and the real troll bait he uses to send the media-machine into a pre-programmed frenzy delivering dross 24-7 to the world media.

Trump has proved the media is corrupt (CNN Debate questions etc), so all of his supporters believe him when he says the media is dishonest.


 

[Phony Moderate]

Trump manipulates the media with gusto.

And I hear that his entire strategy for doing so is laid out in clear language in The Art of the Deal. I've never read the book, but apparently nor has anyone in the MSM.

[ApatheticAustrian]

trump is a fabulist...lile cruz said before his downfall.

he believes what he says.

[BlueSwan]

Trump manipulates the media with gusto.

And I hear that his entire strategy for doing so is laid out in clear language in The Art of the Deal. I've never read the book, but apparently nor has anyone in the MSM.

To be honest, Trump probably hasn't read it either.

[ApatheticAustrian]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

[ApatheticAustrian]

how do you describe an unique administration with unique media hostility in an "objective" way?

jake tapper gets praised by both parties and he is also criticizing the many mistakes of trump's reign.

[Person Man]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

There is probably nothing they can do to be considered "objective" by those who don't believe them. Lying is different than not being believed. This is why this is an issue in the first place.

[ag]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper.

You mean, start getting pre-approval for anything you publish in the White House? That, surely, would be your notion of objectivity.

The "mainstream media" have been extremely careful with Trump. He has got it a lot easier than he deserves by any objective standard.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

Donald Trump Is Gaslighting America
http://www.teenvogue.com/story/donald-trump-is-gaslighting-america

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[ApatheticAustrian]

after her FF interview with known douche tucker carlson, i have respect for miss duca.

[RI]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

There is probably nothing they can do to be considered "objective" by those who don't believe them. Lying is different than not being believed. This is why this is an issue in the first place.

They could try not assuming the worst of Trump at every opportunity. Half or more of Trump's "lies" are just extremely uncharitable misinterpretations by reporters desperate for a "shocking" story. Plus they could cut down on opinion pieces disguised as objective reporting.

[Hermit For Peace]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

There is probably nothing they can do to be considered "objective" by those who don't believe them. Lying is different than not being believed. This is why this is an issue in the first place.

They could try not assuming the worst of Trump at every opportunity. Half or more of Trump's "lies" are just extremely uncharitable misinterpretations by reporters desperate for a "shocking" story. Plus they could cut down on opinion pieces disguised as objective reporting.

That's a new one.

[Meclazine for Israel]

They could try not assuming the worst of Trump at every opportunity. Half or more of Trump's "lies" are just extremely uncharitable misinterpretations by reporters desperate for a "shocking" story. Plus they could cut down on opinion pieces disguised as objective reporting.

You are on the money. Trump can whip the media for what is written because everyone knows the bias.

Most media treat him poorly which only reinforces Trump voters' pre-existing views.

With an extremely low bar set on the opinion of Donald Trump, the media will get this wrong when he achieves great things.

Then Trump will bend the media over and do it again.

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Like our other lying politicians show shame.

[ingemann]

The media always have a hard time dealing with politicians which doesn't play after their rule book, especially because journalists are fundamental nothing but bullies (and not brave bullies), if they see weakness they're like sharks, but they brown-nose anyone showing strength. They look at Trump and they're afraid of him, and his popularity. But the moment he show weakness, they will fall over each other to get a bite of him.

BlueSwan you could see the same with Fogh in Denmark, they was like lap dogs for the man, of course he was smart enough to leave Danish politics as his tactic stopped working.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

There is probably nothing they can do to be considered "objective" by those who don't believe them. Lying is different than not being believed. This is why this is an issue in the first place.

They could try not assuming the worst of Trump at every opportunity. Half or more of Trump's "lies" are just extremely uncharitable misinterpretations by reporters desperate for a "shocking" story. Plus they could cut down on opinion pieces disguised as objective reporting.

President Pussygrabber, his cultists, and his merry band of billionaire looters should quake in fear at even the possibility that the media will work its way up to "objective reporting". "Objective reporting" would in short order fill the streets with enraged mobs bent on seeing the orange con artist swinging from a streetlight, along with his friends and lackeys. (I suspect that's where we'll eventually end up anyway, but he'll have years to ruin the nation, first.)

[Person Man]

what the hell would the people who preach trump's "3d chess strategy" advice the media to do?

ignore him?

laugh about him instead of hyperbole?

-Stop being the Blue Nation Review and be an objective newspaper. But the incentives aren't there for that, and the press isn't wise enough to figure that out.

There is probably nothing they can do to be considered "objective" by those who don't believe them. Lying is different than not being believed. This is why this is an issue in the first place.

They could try not assuming the worst of Trump at every opportunity. Half or more of Trump's "lies" are just extremely uncharitable misinterpretations by reporters desperate for a "shocking" story. Plus they could cut down on opinion pieces disguised as objective reporting.

President Pussygrabber, his cultists, and his merry band of billionaire looters should quake in fear at even the possibility that the media will work its way up to "objective reporting". "Objective reporting" would in short order fill the streets with enraged mobs bent on seeing the orange con artist swinging from a streetlight, along with his friends and lackeys. (I suspect that's where we'll eventually end up anyway, but he'll have years to ruin the nation, first.)

The media always have a hard time dealing with politicians which doesn't play after their rule book, especially because journalists are fundamental nothing but bullies (and not brave bullies), if they see weakness they're like sharks, but they brown-nose anyone showing strength. They look at Trump and they're afraid of him, and his popularity. But the moment he show weakness, they will fall over each other to get a bite of him.

BlueSwan you could see the same with Fogh in Denmark, they was like lap dogs for the man, of course he was smart enough to leave Danish politics as his tactic stopped working.

Maybe you are both right. People aren't stupid and eventually they will learn how foil his gaslighting by trial and error. Until that time, he could probably do whatever he wants and maybe like Fogh, he will know when to stop.

[Hermit For Peace]

President Pussygrabber, his cultists, and his merry band of billionaire looters should quake in fear at even the possibility that the media will work its way up to "objective reporting". "Objective reporting" would in short order fill the streets with enraged mobs bent on seeing the orange con artist swinging from a streetlight, along with his friends and lackeys. (I suspect that's where we'll eventually end up anyway, but he'll have years to ruin the nation, first.)

Runeghost, are you a writer? You sure write well and very creatively. One doesn't have to agree with your subject matter to see this.

Good job!

[Person Man]

President Pussygrabber, his cultists, and his merry band of billionaire looters should quake in fear at even the possibility that the media will work its way up to "objective reporting". "Objective reporting" would in short order fill the streets with enraged mobs bent on seeing the orange con artist swinging from a streetlight, along with his friends and lackeys. (I suspect that's where we'll eventually end up anyway, but he'll have years to ruin the nation, first.)

Runeghost, are you a writer? You sure write well and very creatively. One doesn't have to agree with your subject matter to see this.

Good job!

Maybe he is part of the dreaded (((Lugenpresse))).