Question to Trump supporters, how are you ok with this tax return thing?

[Hindsight was 2020]

During the election I heard so much about "Crooked Hillary", "Clinton Foundation", and "I'm sick of politicians lying to us". So how can any of you be ok with how Trump is handling his tax returns? He contradicts himself and flat out lies about why he can't release his tax returns with Kellyanne coming out and flat out saying he won't release them. So why after all this talk of corruption are you ok with Trump acting corrupt?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I never once clicked on or read an article that had anything to do with any President's release of their tax returns, because I couldn't care less what these riches made in private or public life,  so I really don't care if Trump releases his or not. 

I don't see the harm in releasing the returns, but it's not required so it's his call. 

Frankly, the fallout for this will be far less than his other doozies.

[Santander]

I don't care, and I don't care about the Clinton Foundation either.

[Beet]

During the election I heard so much about "Crooked Hillary", "Clinton Foundation", and "I'm sick of politicians lying to us". So how can any of you be ok with how Trump is handling his tax returns? He contradicts himself and flat out lies about why he can't release his tax returns with Kellyanne coming out and flat out saying he won't release them. So why after all this talk of corruption are you ok with Trump acting corrupt?

All the "Crooked Hillary" and "Clinton Foundation" stuff was a crock of shyte. It was just a cover to hide that they didn't like her because she was a woman.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

I think it's really simple: Trump supporters are amazingly stupid.  Not an "I don't agree with them" stupid. And not  just "not that smart" or "missing some education stupid". They have a sort of aggressive, willful stupid that is only possible with real effort. And  I think the cause is fear and cognitive dissonance.

Things are bad for a lot of people in the US. And they're also deeply challenging and uncomfortable to a lot of people, often the same people. And they're not going to get better, or go back to being the way they were without change that doesn't seem really possible right now. Including from Trump. But they've already bit on the Trump bait. Admitting that he's the pinnacle of Dunning-Kruger would be both admitting how screwed they are, both ideologically and economically, AND it would be a huge blow to their self esteem because they'd need to acknowledge just how stupid they've been. And they'd rather die or kill than do that.

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

I think it's really simple: Trump supporters are amazingly stupid.  Not an "I don't agree with them" stupid. And not  just "not that smart" or "missing some education stupid". They have a sort of aggressive, willful stupid that is only possible with real effort. And  I think the cause is fear and cognitive dissonance.

Things are bad for a lot of people in the US. And they're also deeply challenging and uncomfortable to a lot of people, often the same people. And they're not going to get better, or go back to being the way they were without change that doesn't seem really possible right now. Including from Trump. But they've already bit on the Trump bait. Admitting that he's the pinnacle of Dunning-Kruger would be both admitting how screwed they are, both ideologically and economically, AND it would be a huge blow to their self esteem because they'd need to acknowledge just how stupid they've been. And they'd rather die or kill than do that.

You're an Atlas treasure, my libtard friend. 

[ApatheticAustrian]

I don't care, and I don't care about the Clinton Foundation either.

congratulations for intellectual integrity.

[publicunofficial]

I think it's really simple: Trump supporters are amazingly stupid.  Not an "I don't agree with them" stupid. And not  just "not that smart" or "missing some education stupid". They have a sort of aggressive, willful stupid that is only possible with real effort. And  I think the cause is fear and cognitive dissonance.

Things are bad for a lot of people in the US. And they're also deeply challenging and uncomfortable to a lot of people, often the same people. And they're not going to get better, or go back to being the way they were without change that doesn't seem really possible right now. Including from Trump. But they've already bit on the Trump bait. Admitting that he's the pinnacle of Dunning-Kruger would be both admitting how screwed they are, both ideologically and economically, AND it would be a huge blow to their self esteem because they'd need to acknowledge just how stupid they've been. And they'd rather die or kill than do that.

Some blue avatars may call Runeghost mean-spirited and stupid, but really he's just telling it like it is! Don't the PC police stop you!

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

I never once clicked on or read an article that had anything to do with any President's release of their tax returns, because I couldn't care less what these riches made in private or public life,  so I really don't care if Trump releases his or not. 

I don't see the harm in releasing the returns, but it's not required so it's his call. 

Frankly, the fallout for this will be far less than his other doozies.

[Associate Justice PiT]

     The tax returns are basically a red herring; if there were anything damning in there I'm pretty sure the IRS would be on it. If we're drawing a comparison to the Clinton Foundation kerfuffle, the accusations of Russia influencing Trump would be a more relevant point.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

     The tax returns are basically a red herring; if there were anything damning in there I'm pretty sure the IRS would be on it.

Not necessarily.  The IRS are by law supposed to be the tax police, not the morals police.  As long as Trump reports his income accurately and pays the tax that is due, then the IRS is satisfied, even if the sources of income are embarrassing or even illegal.

That said, I wasn't all that interested in them.  We didn't need to see the tax returns to see Trump's lack of character.  That was abundantly obvious to anyone who cared to look.

[publicunofficial]

These people heard Trump admit to sexual assault on tape and looked the other way. After that everything's easy to swallow.

[ApatheticAustrian]

some lessons are to be learned the hard way. ^^

it's just a shame we are never going to know who trump is indebted to.

[politics_king]

I really don't care, Trump is already a scam artist. If he has ties to other counties, are we surprised? I rather just sit by and let it come out organically because it'll only hurt him and his brand. We're so suspect of Trump, that one false move and we ponce. His whole administration is filled with people trying to take that extra dollar from people all over the world.

[Klartext89]

99% wouldn't even read or understand the returns, I'm basically on the 1% side cause I studied and I'm working on taxation and auditing so I would be interested, but it isn't a big deal. I believe in privacy and therefore can't really understand how transparent the US systems is in terms of money.

As a German, I didn't even know how much my last girlfriend of two years was making in a month lol. Totally different culture, so I'm voting present.

[politics_king]

99% wouldn't even read or understand the returns, I'm basically on the 1% side cause I studied and I'm working on taxation and auditing so I would be interested, but it isn't a big deal. I believe in privacy and therefore can't really understand how transparent the US systems is in terms of money.

As a German, I didn't even know how much my last girlfriend of two years was making in a month lol. Totally different culture, so I'm voting present.

Denmark, I assume? Our country is so diverse and spread out, we need to listen to our people. Our middle American class is hurting and they live in some of the cheapest areas where we live. So I agree to an extent that they wanted help. Private business is cool, but we have a problem in our country that they'll take advantage of it. It's why it became a Populist vs. Establishment election. So many GOP's jumped to Hillary cause she would've kept up the status-quo. While the majority of voters went for Trump, while common-sense voters either didn't vote or went 3rd party because they didn't represent what we were looking for. I was a non-voter, and I don't want to hear the "you wasted your vote" talking garbage point because 1.) I didn't vote and 2.) both candidates sucked because I saw them for what they were... a Con-Artist and War-Monger.

[ProgressiveCanadian]

Poll from ABC had the number of Americans not wanting him to release it in the teens. People supporting Trump on this are in a small small minority (even overall Trump supporters want them released).

[Middle-aged Europe]

#DrainTheSwamp

[Zinneke]

99% wouldn't even read or understand the returns, I'm basically on the 1% side cause I studied and I'm working on taxation and auditing so I would be interested, but it isn't a big deal. I believe in privacy and therefore can't really understand how transparent the US systems is in terms of money.

As a German, I didn't even know how much my last girlfriend of two years was making in a month lol. Totally different culture, so I'm voting present.

Can you do martial arts and read tax returns at the same time though?

[ApatheticAustrian]

i surely feel mature enough to not freak out about romney-like tax evasion in this year and age.

and romney-like stuff wouldn't have been dramatical enough to risk so much bad press anyway.

i think it would have made many of trump's talking points much more difficult if everybody could have seen that his own network easily competes with the clinton one.

and since hs is far worse with money than the clintons and lives like an IT-girl......i guess showing off how much in debt he is with the chinese or russiands wouldn't have helped too.

[angus]

Eventually they'll be subpoenaed (at his impeachment trial) and we'll all get to review them at that time.