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Meclazine for Israel
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« on: January 24, 2017, 06:48:14 PM »
« edited: January 24, 2017, 06:50:55 PM by Meclazine »

What are peoples views on the Dakota Pipeline?


Cheryl Angel offers ceremonial tobacco on Backwater Bridge during a protest against the Dakota Access pipeline.

Donald has come in and nailed it.

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-25/trump-to-approve-controversial-pipelines/8210026


Donald Trump signed an executive order to advance construction of the Dakota Access pipeline.

Good deal/Bad deal? I am honestly in the dark on it's economic or social benefits to the US people.
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« Reply #1 on: January 24, 2017, 06:52:08 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.
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« Reply #2 on: January 24, 2017, 06:53:16 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.
FF, if satire.

If not...
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« Reply #3 on: January 24, 2017, 06:59:48 PM »

I'm indifferent to the pipeline, but I know some facts!
Oil is going to get shipped.  It's better to ship it in new pipelines than it is any other way.  The pipeline has to cross the Missouri River, just like lots of other pipelines already do.  Perhaps it should go around the natives lands more than it already does, I don't know.
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« Reply #4 on: January 24, 2017, 07:10:48 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.

Would you be OK with this pipeline being build under your water supply?
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« Reply #5 on: January 24, 2017, 07:13:46 PM »
« Edited: January 24, 2017, 07:15:41 PM by Green Line »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.

Would you be OK with this pipeline being build under your water supply?

The pipeline is not a threat whatsoever to their water supply, and does not cross over any reservation land.  There is absolutely no threat to their drinking supply.  This is a falesehood that has been repeated ad nauseam.
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« Reply #6 on: January 24, 2017, 07:27:20 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.

Would you be OK with this pipeline being build under your water supply?

The pipeline is not a threat whatsoever to their water supply, and does not cross over any reservation land.  There is absolutely no threat to their drinking supply.  This is a falesehood that has been repeated ad nauseam.
Yeah, that's why voters in Bismarck rejected it.
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« Reply #7 on: January 24, 2017, 07:31:29 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.

Would you be OK with this pipeline being build under your water supply?

The pipeline is not a threat whatsoever to their water supply, and does not cross over any reservation land.  There is absolutely no threat to their drinking supply.  This is a falesehood that has been repeated ad nauseam.

I guess there's NO reason why all those protestors have been out there in all types of weather, trying to preserve their way of life. I guess it's all a joke to them.
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« Reply #8 on: January 24, 2017, 07:32:01 PM »

I try to see both sides of this story without all the dick waving and professional protesters who want to import Green Approved Organic bottled water so they can fight to keep the Natives' tap water clean.

The GOP/Oil company side's case is an economic one.  It's a solid case.  We need this oil.  It needs to be in a pipeline instead of on trains or trucks, where it is liable to cause even worse environmental disasters.  You can protest the use of oil at all... but this is not going to be the battle that decides that issue.

The Natives' side is both environmental and about respect and sovereignty.  It is an emotional appeal.  First and foremost they want it away from the little bits of lands we have let them keep.  Secondly there is fear that the pipeline could leak and could cause major environmental damage, even to lands they no longer directly hold but have a deep historical connection to.

The environmentalists' side I have the least sympathy for or empathy with.  These people are wolves in sheeps' clothing and it is apparent by the way they have tried to take over the protests.  

Trump should have shown empathy with the Natives but allowed the pipeline to be constructed with extra safety precautions far away from the Native lands and closer to the suburbs where people support the pipeline.
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« Reply #9 on: January 24, 2017, 07:33:49 PM »

Very good deal.  Will bring great prosperity with no consequence.  The pipes are not going to affect the Indians in any way whatsoever.  It's all completely blown out of proportion.

Would you be OK with this pipeline being build under your water supply?

The pipeline is not a threat whatsoever to their water supply, and does not cross over any reservation land.  There is absolutely no threat to their drinking supply.  This is a falesehood that has been repeated ad nauseam.

I guess there's NO reason why all those protestors have been out there in all types of weather, trying to preserve their way of life. I guess it's all a joke to them.

Is their water supply threatened?  Multiples pipelines already cross the river.  There is absolutely nothing to support the claims.  It's an emotional argument.
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« Reply #10 on: January 24, 2017, 07:41:14 PM »

Why, exactly, is rerouting the pipeline a no-go?  Why does it need to go through lands whose inhabitants are opposed to it being there?
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« Reply #11 on: January 24, 2017, 07:43:01 PM »

Why, exactly, is rerouting the pipeline a no-go?  Why does it need to go through lands whose inhabitants are opposed to it being there?

Except it doesn't go through their lands.
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« Reply #12 on: January 24, 2017, 07:54:53 PM »

Great deal!

Donald J. Trump is making America great again.
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« Reply #13 on: January 24, 2017, 08:38:21 PM »


Here's a post that Bernie Sanders posted on FB. There is a bigger picture to look at in this situation, and unfortunately the Republican party is the short-sighted party that can't seem to be able to look past "profits".

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« Reply #14 on: January 24, 2017, 08:41:28 PM »

Keystone = good. Stopping it was an obnoxious pander to radical environmentalist groups.

DAPL = bad. Too much risk, too much disruption, and we shouldn't be treading on any more treaties with our Native population.
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