Obama would lose to 'generic Republican' candidate in 2012 election: poll

[uti2]

http://www.nydailynews.com/news/politics/president-barack-obama-lose-generic-republican-candidate-2012-election-poll-article-1.125657

http://www.gallup.com/poll/150116/generic-republican-continues-lead-obama-vote.aspx

Remember these polls?

[RaphaelDLG]

Point taken, though his ad team did carve Romney up like a goddamn steak (with help from Romney himself, ofc)

[Medal506]

I think a tea party Republican like Rand Paul or Mike Lee would have destroyed Obama in 2012

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

I think a tea party Republican like Rand Paul or Mike Lee would have destroyed Obama in 2012

-They would have had their upsides (I would have been a big fan of them), but I suspect they would have been, like Goldwater, too conservative to win. Nevertheless, I do think 2012 was a winnable election for the GOP.

[Xing]

Case in point, polls for the 2020 race are going to be pretty meaningless until June 2020 or so.

[Person Man]

The thing to keep in mind is the national condition. This is probably the best inherited situation for a new president in decades with the exception of the nazi problem...and the presidebt is part of it.

Obama slogged through a minor depression and Bush at least arguably in 2004 won two wars despite economy that was weakened from the best almost ever to OK but slow.  What will Trump preside over, especially becauss he has the trifecta?

[Pericles]

These polls were taken in 2011. Obama at least started off popular, his version of unpopular is Trump's current approval rating. Trump was a historically unpopular candidate and is a historically unpopular President. He is more vulnerable than Obama, though he can win.

[Middle-aged Europe]

A specific Democrat/Republican can be more unpopular than a generic Democrat/Republican.

[Person Man]

These polls were taken in 2011. Obama at least started off popular, his version of unpopular is Trump's current approval rating. Trump was a historically unpopular candidate and is a historically unpopular President. He is more vulnerable than Obama, though he can win.

Yeah. but maybe things get better economically? It's kind of hard to improve on 4% unemployment and 2% inflation. Maybe if things got bad and better again quickly, it would make him popular? That's how it worked for Reagan. Or maybe he needs another war. Maybe he backstabs Putin in Syria? But Putin is probably going to backstab him first and Trump will be responsible for "losing" a country the same way Johnson "lost" Vietnam or Carter "lost" Iran..even how Truman "lost" China.