The ban just enacted includes legal US residents

[Blue3]

“It’s working out very nicely,” Trump said of his executive order on Saturday.

“You see it at the airports, you see it all over.”

[Chief Justice Keef]

As my ancestry is about 50% from what is now the UK and most of the rest is from either Germany or Switzerland, could I get British, German, or Swiss citizenship?

Take a breath, it really isnt that bad. This will get thrown out as unconstitutional.

Don't rely on the government to do anything for you. Don't rely on the Supreme Court to render it unconstitutional. Don't rely on Congress to take action, whether it be Republicans or Democrats. People need to accept a new social order that involves constant action and opposition.

[Fusionmunster]

STAY IS GRANTED!

https://twitter.com/dale_e_ho

[Meclazine for Israel]

Qantas is offering help to anyone affected:

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/qantas-to-assist-passengers-affected-by-us-immigration-ban/8221186

[publicunofficial]

The botched, heavy-handed rollout to this is a pretty strong argument as to why electing someone with no governing experience to the highest office in the world isn't a good idea.

[Blue3]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

[100% pro-life no matter what]

This probably should have been better-thought out.  I believe in a lot to keep terrorists out, but this wasn't the way to do it as it was written.  Let's go back to the drawing table and come up with a new system, such as granting no new refugees or visas from these countries, but not going after those with legal status in the US.  At first, I was OK with this order, but after hearing the stories that resulted from it, I now oppose it.

[100% pro-life no matter what]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

As it should be- no new refugees from those countries, but there is nothing we should do about people with legal status in the US already.

[Fusionmunster]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

[MasterJedi]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

I think it applies to everyone who can legally come here now.

[Classic Conservative]

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

[Blue3]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

It is. See above.

[Fusionmunster]

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

It is. See above.

It isnt.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

-They're not being left to die, and America is not a sewer.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

-They're not being left to die, and America is not a sewer.

Yes they are, and they aren't fu**king sewage.

[Dr. Arch]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

-They're not being left to die, and America is not a sewer.

Yes they are, and they aren't fu**king sewage.

It's truly mind-blowing when you see one human being refer to other human beings as sewage.

[Meclazine for Israel]

http://www.abc.net.au/news/2017-01-29/hameed-darweesh-iraqi-refugee-detained-at-jfk-after-trump-order/8221412

Report in on the people directly involved in the court case.

Clearly, it was the wrong decision to bar people who have existing visas and business with the USA.

 

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

It's time for Trump to break William Henry Harrison's record. I'm sure exile in some tax haven awash with underage sex slaves will suit him just fine.

[Atlas Has Shrugged]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

A combination of security concerns, economic limitations, and managing public resources available to the most vulnerable. The question I have for you is why is it desirable for us to set aside these concerns beside some vague, emotion sourced argument of "it is the right thing to do?" What makes it right? I have still, six pages later, not heard a convincing argument.

[Since I'm the mad scientist proclaimed by myself]

I do enjoy watching the usual suspects come squawking out of of the hen-house after the eight year presidency of Barack Obama, which was basically based around executed orders.

Can you for a minute not be such a heartless wretch and see what this for what it is.  Try to not be some cold bastard for once in your life.

I have plenty of warmth for people who have the right to be here, rest assured. I have yet to hear any reason from you besides "it's the right thing to do" and I suspect that I'll only receive a barely comprehensible, profanity laced, ALL CAPS response.

I don't post here that often nowadays, but I support the stay. I legitimately feel for the people who were stuck in the airport and those who are already here should be allowed to stay. I however the idea of this Executive Order, but it was terribly worded and should be repealed and replaced with a more narrow and less vague order which allows religious minorities and those who helped the United States in Iraq and Afghanistan.

The stay only applies to those currently detained, new people coming in are still blocked

I dont think thats true.

https://mobile.twitter.com/BraddJaffy/status/825530500668354560
https://mobile.twitter.com/Reuters/status/825525912447963138
https://mobile.twitter.com/dale_e_ho/status/825525311278284800

Religious minorities (ie, persecuted Christians) are being put on the top of the list. I find that to be horribly wrong. If we take people in, we should take them in on a first come first serve basis. I don't see why a Syrian Christian has anymore of a right to be here then a Muslim from Aleppo, and in either case, neither of them have an actual right to be here.

So basically not being white means you have no right to be here?

Not being a US citizen means you have no right to be here. A green-card is not citizenship. You have a right to leave America, but not one to enter.

Why is it okay to leave people to die because they don't have citizenship papers?

A combination of security concerns, economic limitations, and managing public resources available to the most vulnerable. The question I have for you is why is it desirable for us to set aside these concerns beside some vague, emotion sourced argument of "it is the right thing to do?" What makes it right? I have still, six pages later, not heard a convincing argument.

There are hundreds of thousands of them. 500 deaths from "terrorists sneaking in" is an incredibly pessimistic number. The number of deaths if you leave them are at least ten thousand.

On the "economic limitations", I call BS. Our economy isn't weak enough to be unable to handle an extra fraction of the population. Would they even exist if the refugees were British?

[MATTROSE94]

If a person fled the Iran in the 70's or 80's to escape the mullahs, say to the U.K. or France, that person would still have Iranian citizenship and would be barred from stepping foot on US soil.

Completely stupid.

My cousin fits that mold exactly. As of now, he can't visit us because he's a dual UK-Iranian citizen.

What the  is going on here?

How would the ban impact Iranians with dual US-Iranian citizenship? The reason I ask is because I am friends with an Iranian-American woman whose parents (who did/still support the Iranian Revolution and participated in it) came to the US around 1984 or '85 due to the Iran-Iraq War (her father served in the war and was present during Operation Beit ol-Moqaddas). My friends has also travelled to Iran 3 times to visit her family, most recently in early 2016.