Has the invasion of Iraq created more terrorists?

[MissCatholic]

It has to be YES.

These people are well-educated, raised in middle class families who oppose the American occupation in the Arabian Peninsula.

Have you ever asked the question why does the us govenment never translate in full any of Bin Ladens messages?

Bin Laden asks for one thing and one thing only. For American forces to leave the Arabian Peninsula.

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

So what do we know.

America has bases in Yemen, Oman, Kuwiat, Saudi Arabia and now Afghanistan and Iraq. After the Soviet Afgan war, Bin Laden asked the question why are you still here? After recieving no response, he became a radical nut who wanted to kill Americans.

So his war against America started once the Americans refused to leave parts of Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Oman. So why did we stay?

[John Dibble]

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

I'm inclined to believe that, actually. These aren't the type of people who stop just because you give into a demand - they'll just make more demands in all likeliness.

[CARLHAYDEN]

It has to be YES.

These people are well-educated, raised in middle class families who oppose the American occupation in the Arabian Peninsula.

Have you ever asked the question why does the us govenment never translate in full any of Bin Ladens messages?

Bin Laden asks for one thing and one thing only. For American forces to leave the Arabian Peninsula.

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

So what do we know.

America has bases in Yemen, Oman, Kuwiat, Saudi Arabia and now Afghanistan and Iraq. After the Soviet Afgan war, Bin Laden asked the question why are you still here? After recieving no response, he became a radical nut who wanted to kill Americans.

So his war against America started once the Americans refused to leave parts of Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Oman. So why did we stay?

You really should check the facts.

Among other things, Osama has demanded the United States stop supporting the right of Israel to exist.

[KillerPollo]

It has to be YES.

These people are well-educated, raised in middle class families who oppose the American occupation in the Arabian Peninsula.

Have you ever asked the question why does the us govenment never translate in full any of Bin Ladens messages?

Bin Laden asks for one thing and one thing only. For American forces to leave the Arabian Peninsula.

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

So what do we know.

America has bases in Yemen, Oman, Kuwiat, Saudi Arabia and now Afghanistan and Iraq. After the Soviet Afgan war, Bin Laden asked the question why are you still here? After recieving no response, he became a radical nut who wanted to kill Americans.

So his war against America started once the Americans refused to leave parts of Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Oman. So why did we stay?

You really should check the facts.

Among other things, Osama has demanded the United States stop supporting the right of Israel to exist.

well, Israel is getting far more attention, and aid than it deserves, and is promoting Jewish extremism, which some are more dangerous than muslims.

[King]

If MissCatholic believes it YES, then how come YES has 0 votes right now?

[King]

Also, you choose a bad subject title as your post says virtually nothing about Iraq.

It has to be YES.

These people are well-educated, raised in middle class families who oppose the American occupation in the Arabian Peninsula.

Have you ever asked the question why does the us govenment never translate in full any of Bin Ladens messages?

Bin Laden asks for one thing and one thing only. For American forces to leave the Arabian Peninsula.

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

So what do we know.

America has bases in Yemen, Oman, Kuwiat, Saudi Arabia and now Afghanistan and Iraq. After the Soviet Afgan war, Bin Laden asked the question why are you still here? After recieving no response, he became a radical nut who wanted to kill Americans.

So his war against America started once the Americans refused to leave parts of Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Oman. So why did we stay?

[PBrunsel]

It has to be YES.

Uh, okay. Why are you polling if you already know the answer?

LOL!

NewFederalist, you have split my sides once again!

[KillerPollo]

It has to be YES.

Uh, okay. Why are you polling if you already know the answer?

LOL!

NewFederalist, you have split my sides once again!

This has got to be the most left-winged poll ever.

[John Dibble]

It has to be YES.

Uh, okay. Why are you polling if you already know the answer?

LOL!

NewFederalist, you have split my sides once again!

This has got to be the most left-winged poll ever.

Oh there's some much worse ones you could go find.

[CARLHAYDEN]

It has to be YES.

These people are well-educated, raised in middle class families who oppose the American occupation in the Arabian Peninsula.

Have you ever asked the question why does the us govenment never translate in full any of Bin Ladens messages?

Bin Laden asks for one thing and one thing only. For American forces to leave the Arabian Peninsula.

The American government tells us that these people would kill us even if we did leave.

So what do we know.

America has bases in Yemen, Oman, Kuwiat, Saudi Arabia and now Afghanistan and Iraq. After the Soviet Afgan war, Bin Laden asked the question why are you still here? After recieving no response, he became a radical nut who wanted to kill Americans.

So his war against America started once the Americans refused to leave parts of Yemen, Saudi Arabia and Oman. So why did we stay?

You really should check the facts.

Among other things, Osama has demanded the United States stop supporting the right of Israel to exist.

well, Israel is getting far more attention, and aid than it deserves, and is promoting Jewish extremism, which some are more dangerous than muslims.

Apparently you did NOT understand my post.

If the people who currently want to terminate Israel's exostemce. then I suggest that governmental aid from the United States to Israel would gradually dry up.

Further, I don't recall any example of Jewish extremists hijacking airliners and using them to kill Americans.

[J. J.]

Has the invasion created more al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq?  Sure.  

Has the invasion created more terrorists in Iraq?  Probably not.

Has the invasion created more support for al-Qaeda world wide?  Probably not.

[dazzleman]

Has the invasion created more al-Qaeda terrorists in Iraq?  Sure.  

Has the invasion created more terrorists in Iraq?  Probably not.

Has the invasion created more support for al-Qaeda world wide?  Probably not.

^^^^^^^

[opebo]

Yes, obviously it has created enormous numbers.  It is hilarious that most on this board believe otherwise.

Unless they mean that these people would be terrorists anyway because of Isreal, etc., and are only additionally motivated by the rape of Iraq...

[Speed of Sound]

Unsure

Unless they mean that these people would be terrorists anyway because of Isreal, etc., and are only additionally motivated by the rape of Iraq...

i was pretty much thinking exactly that except i voted Unsure.

[Citizen James]

Well, according to the Director of Central Intellegence Porter J. Goss:

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I would take that as a yes.

[Nym90]

I don't know, it's probably impossible to say for sure with any degree of accuracy. I don't think there's a census of terrorists or anything like that.

[MissCatholic]

If MissCatholic believes it YES, then how come YES has 0 votes right now?

I never vote on polls that i create. I make my case weak or not and allow you to decide

[bgwah]

I would have to say yes!

[The Duke]

When they killed Bobby Kennedy, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they took our embassy in Tehran, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they threw Leon Klinghoffer in the ocean there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they downed Pan Am, there were no US troops in Arab nations.

It may be convenient to believe that simply leaving Arabia be would end all of this, but that idea convenient as it may be, is not supported by the facts.

Has Iraq specifically created more terrorists?  Find me a person who was a shopkeeper before the invasion and a terrorist after, a man who thought America benevolent before and imperialistic after, and you will have found the one and only such person in the world.

[opebo]

When they killed Bobby Kennedy, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they took our embassy in Tehran, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they threw Leon Klinghoffer in the ocean there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they downed Pan Am, there were no US troops in Arab nations.

Yeah, but our subsidiary Isreal was in an Arab nation.

[The Duke]

When they killed Bobby Kennedy, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they took our embassy in Tehran, there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they threw Leon Klinghoffer in the ocean there were no US troops in Arab nations.  When they downed Pan Am, there were no US troops in Arab nations.

Yeah, but our subsidiary Isreal was in an Arab nation.

The US has sent as much aid over the years to Israel's Arab neighbors as to Israel itself.  Here are the facts of the US Israel relationship:

The US weapons sales to Israel are often overstated.  The US did not sell weapons to Israel until 1962, when we sold the HAWK anti-aircraft missile.  During our 14 year arms blockade of Israel we sold large amounts of weaponry to the Arab states.  We did not sell high end weapons to Israel until 1968, after Sirhan Sirhan shot Kennedy, when we sold F-4 Phantom aircraft.  We did not provide military aid to Israel until 1973, until then it had all been regular commercial transactions, when Egypt refused to accept a US brokered peace deal in the Yom Kippur War.  A US resupply of weapons allowed the Israel to repel the invasion by the Arab states.

US foreign aid to Israel is often overstated.  The US gave exclusively economic aid to Israel prior to 1973, and this aid was smaller than the amounts given to Arab nations during that time.  From 1960 to 1985, there were no grants in aid to Israel, it was all loans which Israel has repaid in full.  Even the large sum of aid sent to Israel today is still smaller than the aid the US sends to the Arabs, pareticularly Egypt and Palestine, and US weapons deals with Israel are no more extensive than deals with oil rich Gulf states.

US use of the UN Veto is often overstated.  The US did not use its UN Veto to protect Israel once until 1972, over a Syrian-Lebanese resolution attacking Israel.  In the years prior to this the US actually voted for a number of resolutions critical of Israel.  Even today, the US allows the UN to attack Israel without using its Veto.  Of the 90 anti-Israel resolutions from the end of the Yom Kippur War in 1973 to the collapse of the Arafat-Barak negotiations in 2000 the US vetoed only 33 of them.  This means the US abstained or supported anti-Israel resolutions 2/3rds of the time!  It is also worth noting that when the US helped design the UN, Israel was barred from ever being on the Security Council by a convoluted set of rules having to do with regional apportionment the US helped put in place.

The level of US support for Israel is often over stated, and is not a rational justification for Islamic terrorism against America.

[??????????]

Further, I don't recall any example of Jewish extremists hijacking airliners and using them to kill Americans.

True, although they did intentionally attack the U.S.S. Liberty.