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Thomas Jackson
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« Reply #25 on: January 30, 2017, 09:46:19 PM »


SO MUCH WIN!!!!!

I am so proud of Trump.
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« Reply #26 on: January 30, 2017, 09:46:36 PM »

The Attorney General serves the law, not the President.

Yeah, and the President can fire the Attorney General.  The unelected, bureaucrat.  There's nothing wrong with this.
Of course you would try and defend this sh**t.
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« Reply #27 on: January 30, 2017, 09:47:49 PM »

Trump supporters are delusional if they think he can keep this kind of unethical and disgusting behavior up and not drag down the GOP with him as they turn a blind eye. This is especially true given that there's no longer the #ButHillary buffer zone to help.

She's disobeying a legal order by the Commander In Chief. Who's delusional here.

BINGO!
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« Reply #28 on: January 30, 2017, 09:48:37 PM »

It's NOT illegal to fire her.

But Trump could have released a legal memo explaining the legal reasoning. Or just waited a couple days for Sessions to replace her. He chose shock. He chose something that reminds people of the worst of Nixon.


It REEKS of authoritarianism, of wanting an obedient army of bureaucratic Yes-Men.
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« Reply #29 on: January 30, 2017, 09:49:24 PM »

The Attorney General serves the law, not the President.

She's violating a legal order.
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« Reply #30 on: January 30, 2017, 09:50:36 PM »

The Attorney General serves the law, not the President.

She's violating a legal order.

NOT violating.

Refusing to defend it in court.
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« Reply #31 on: January 30, 2017, 09:50:41 PM »

Any AG who would defend something they believed to be illegal just because the president wanted it is a menace to the entire nation. Agree or disagree with her, good for Yates.
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« Reply #32 on: January 30, 2017, 09:50:43 PM »


Trump has literally called it a "ban."
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« Reply #33 on: January 30, 2017, 09:51:19 PM »

It's NOT illegal to fire her.

But Trump could have released a legal memo explaining the legal reasoning. Or just waited a couple days for Sessions to replace her. He chose shock. He chose something that reminds people of the worst of Nixon.


It REEKS of authoritarianism, of wanting an obedient army of bureaucratic Yes-Men.


Only to hang-wringing leftists who think that they are still in charge. The people that put Trump in office have been waiting for a leader with a spine.
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« Reply #34 on: January 30, 2017, 09:52:08 PM »

It's NOT illegal to fire her.

But Trump could have released a legal memo explaining the legal reasoning. Or just waited a couple days for Sessions to replace her. He chose shock. He chose something that reminds people of the worst of Nixon.


It REEKS of authoritarianism, of wanting an obedient army of bureaucratic Yes-Men.

This usually isn't a good idea.

it gets out of control very quickly.
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« Reply #35 on: January 30, 2017, 10:00:59 PM »

People kept repeating the same points without listening to what people were really saying.
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« Reply #36 on: January 30, 2017, 10:05:16 PM »

People kept repeating the same points without listening to what people were really saying.
Its what happens when you have a bunch of people on the Internet who think they know much about politics and don't want to listen to others. 
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« Reply #37 on: January 30, 2017, 10:06:37 PM »

I would've done the same thing.
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« Reply #38 on: January 30, 2017, 10:06:41 PM »

We should just be glad he didn't put a hit out on her.
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« Reply #39 on: January 30, 2017, 10:07:23 PM »

It's NOT illegal to fire her.

But Trump could have released a legal memo explaining the legal reasoning. Or just waited a couple days for Sessions to replace her. He chose shock. He chose something that reminds people of the worst of Nixon.


It REEKS of authoritarianism, of wanting an obedient army of bureaucratic Yes-Men.


Only to hang-wringing leftists who think that they are still in charge. The people that put Trump in office have been waiting for a leader with a spine.


"The people" put Hillary in charge. A fluky quirk of the system put Trump in charge in violation of the people's will.
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« Reply #40 on: January 30, 2017, 10:08:07 PM »

Wait, is America a parliamentary democracy now?


Better build up the Royal Navy again in case Trump decides the UK would make a good 51st state.
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« Reply #41 on: January 30, 2017, 10:10:46 PM »

Regardless of your feelings on the actual ban, this is entirely appropriate.  If the Attorney General is not going to defend the position of the government, she has to go.  You all would be saying the same thing if Obama's AG suddenly decided he wasn't going to defend Obamacare.  GMAFB.
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« Reply #42 on: January 30, 2017, 10:11:22 PM »

It's NOT illegal to fire her.

But Trump could have released a legal memo explaining the legal reasoning. Or just waited a couple days for Sessions to replace her. He chose shock. He chose something that reminds people of the worst of Nixon.


It REEKS of authoritarianism, of wanting an obedient army of bureaucratic Yes-Men.


Amen! Every time Trump does something morally ambiguous, he reminds me of why I love him. This is an A+++ move that makes me so excited once again for the future.
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« Reply #43 on: January 30, 2017, 10:11:58 PM »

And we're only 10 days in.

I WANT TO GET OFF MR TRUMP'S WILD RIDE
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« Reply #44 on: January 30, 2017, 10:12:49 PM »

I wish this had been done to Director Comey. Still, his term lasts until 2023, hopefully a Democrat wins in 2020 and fires him.
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« Reply #45 on: January 30, 2017, 10:13:01 PM »

I think the point that is being missed here is that this sort of unstable governing cannot produce good results in the long run.
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« Reply #46 on: January 30, 2017, 10:13:14 PM »

What a mess. Trump was and remains an amateur.

On top of everything, Boente would not have been the automatic next-in-line to Yates (that would be Zach Fardon). So Trump obviously looked for someone who would follow his orders blindly!
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« Reply #47 on: January 30, 2017, 10:21:01 PM »

The Monday Night Massacre is real!

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« Reply #48 on: January 30, 2017, 10:23:29 PM »

It's not unreasonable to require the Department of Justice to defend the Administration's executive order. I'd love to fault Trump and say he's a lunatic but he's within his rights to have a Justice Department to defend his policies, legally.

Well he's a lunatic regardless but no, this isn't unreasonable. She overstepped her brief.
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« Reply #49 on: January 30, 2017, 10:23:55 PM »
« Edited: January 30, 2017, 10:27:14 PM by Damar »

Regardless of your feelings on the actual ban, this is entirely appropriate.  If the Attorney General is not going to defend the position of the government, she has to go.  You all would be saying the same thing if Obama's AG suddenly decided he wasn't going to defend Obamacare.  GMAFB.

Of course he's within his legal right to do it, and if Yates were Trump's actual AG pick it would make a lot of sense, but considering how she was stepping down from her job within the week AND would obviously not be the one defending in Court anyway if she were willing (Trump would certainly wait on Sessions to do that rather than trust an Obama holdover), it's just really petty (and typical) of Trump.
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