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Ronnie
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« on: January 31, 2017, 06:01:00 PM »

Support 49%
Oppose 41%
Don't know 10%

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https://www.google.com/amp/mobile.reuters.com/article/amp/idUSKBN15F2MG?client=safari

It looks like Trump might be succeeding at what he set out to do: cleaving the country in two and taking the bigger half.  
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« Reply #1 on: January 31, 2017, 06:12:00 PM »

     Wouldn't have gotten that out of the media coverage of the event.
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« Reply #2 on: January 31, 2017, 06:14:07 PM »

Yea I don't know why the red avatars on here somehow think this is a radical move relative to overall American views on the subject.

Strategic banning from certain terror-prone nations has always been comfortably supported by Americans and it's actually a moderate stance to take.
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« Reply #3 on: January 31, 2017, 06:14:20 PM »

Here is the full poll and the question wording:

http://ipsos-na.com/download/pr.aspx?id=16379

"Do you agree or disagree with the Executive Order that President Trump signed blocking refugees and banning people from seven Muslim majority countries from entering the U.S.?"

all voters:
agree 48
disagree 41

Dems
agree 23
disagree 70

GOP
agree 82
disagree 13

Indies
agree 44
disagree 36

The poll also includes a bunch of other questions about immigration, refugees, and whether this makes the country more safe.
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« Reply #4 on: January 31, 2017, 06:30:06 PM »

Most Americans supported Jim Crow too until they didn't. It's not easy to live a Christlike life.
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« Reply #5 on: January 31, 2017, 06:41:07 PM »

But.....but.....all these unemployed deadbeats are squealing at the airport!
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« Reply #6 on: January 31, 2017, 06:51:43 PM »

Very disturbing. Regardless though, Trump's approval seems to be going down since this.
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« Reply #7 on: January 31, 2017, 06:54:43 PM »

But.....but.....all these unemployed deadbeats are squealing at the airport!

I thought those were the coal miners wanting their jobs back or something

Yeah, I've never understood why a Republican who's out of a job just fell on hard times (usually thanks to muh big government) but a Democrat who's out of a job is just a lazy slacker millennial who feels entitled.
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« Reply #8 on: January 31, 2017, 06:59:11 PM »

Sorry, I don't like this poll. So that means its fake news.
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« Reply #9 on: January 31, 2017, 07:04:37 PM »

As I said in the other thread, that doesn't make it right or constitutional.
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« Reply #10 on: January 31, 2017, 07:16:36 PM »

Letting in refugees has always polled very poorly with a few weird exceptions. I can believe this; I can also believe that Republicans really, really don't want to deal with the 25% "Strongly Disagree" who are making their lives very difficult at the moment.
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« Reply #11 on: January 31, 2017, 07:59:30 PM »

I already figured that this wasn't going to be as unpopular as many here probably assumed. There were mass protests in the cities, yes, because cities are heavily liberal and multicultural. But America isn't just its urban cores, it's also its suburbs and rural areas. I'd wager the support varies at least as much by one's geography as it does their political party.

This will only further solidify the Democratic Party as the party or urban, multicultural, coscmopolitan America.
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« Reply #12 on: January 31, 2017, 08:08:33 PM »

I think Coates put it best: we're not a country of fascist pigs, we're a country of majoritarian pigs.
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« Reply #13 on: January 31, 2017, 09:00:11 PM »

That majority is either blissfully ignorant, misinformed, driven by fear or flat-out cruel. Or a combination.
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« Reply #14 on: January 31, 2017, 09:03:01 PM »

I think part of the outrage and fear from the left is that this is just the start.  The slippery slope only gets slipperier and slopier from here.  Already there are drafts that would seek to deport legal immigrants who have come to rely on public assistance.

We react to the whole range of awful possibilities that can and will come of this.  Not just the language of this order itself.

The right calls it an overreaction.  It's not a reaction at all.  It's a f**king warning.
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« Reply #15 on: January 31, 2017, 09:03:57 PM »

I think Coates put it best: we're not a country of fascist pigs, we're a country of majoritarian pigs.
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« Reply #16 on: January 31, 2017, 09:28:11 PM »

Not surprised in the slightest.

Once you have appropriate immigration reform, people are a lot more content, including both sides of politics.

From Australia:

"The Rudd government’s dismantling of the Howard government’s successful border protection policies directly resulted in more than 51,000 illegal maritime arrivals, including more than 8400 children, while it has been estimated that at least 1200 people (including hundreds of children) perished at sea."

All of the children in detention are from this left-wing period of government.

Once the policy was changed with offshore detention, illegal arrivals dropped to zero.

No deaths at sea. No children in detention.

So even if Hillary Clinton became Australian Priminister, she would be unlikely to reverse that policy based purely on results.

We seek out political and religiously persecuted refugees at our expense and time and get them into the country.

It is called effective immigration policy, something that is long overdue in the USA.

Given that Trump is even attempting to reform immigration will be popular.



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« Reply #17 on: January 31, 2017, 09:29:48 PM »

Most Americans/humans are selfish assholes. News at 11.
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« Reply #18 on: January 31, 2017, 10:09:07 PM »

America is not inherently great. It's greatness is based on it's founding principles of liberty and equality. If Americans abandon those ideals then the whole country can burn for all I care, in the hope whatever new nation is cobbled together from the ashes learns from it's predecessor's failures.
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« Reply #19 on: January 31, 2017, 10:11:49 PM »

America is not inherently great. It's greatness is based on it's founding principles of liberty and equality. If Americans abandon those ideals then the whole country can burn for all I care, in the hope whatever new nation is cobbled together from the ashes learns from it's predecessor's failures.
Not to let my maroon avatar/cynic side show... I'm not a philosopher, but it doesn't take one to realize that even on a comparable field with other nations on this planet, we don't have much of either liberty or quality.  That's probably why we talk about it so damn much.. we're projecting.
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« Reply #20 on: January 31, 2017, 10:14:22 PM »

America is not inherently great. It's greatness is based on it's founding principles of liberty and equality. If Americans abandon those ideals then the whole country can burn for all I care, in the hope whatever new nation is cobbled together from the ashes learns from it's predecessor's failures.
Not to let my maroon avatar/cynic side show... I'm not a philosopher, but it doesn't take one to realize that even on a comparable field with other nations on this planet, we don't have much of either liberty or quality.  That's probably why we talk about it so damn much.. we're projecting.

I'm well aware of where we rank.
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« Reply #21 on: January 31, 2017, 10:39:40 PM »

Sorry, I don't like this poll. So that means its fake news.


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« Reply #22 on: January 31, 2017, 11:33:47 PM »

The truth is more complicated than you can put in a Topic headline:

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« Reply #23 on: February 01, 2017, 01:57:30 AM »

As it relates to this executive order, if people understood how it impacted Green Card holders and people who already had visas, they might feel differently. Theoretically speaking, I can see how about half the country would be fine with banning people from troubled parts of the world.
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« Reply #24 on: February 01, 2017, 03:51:03 AM »

How were the poll numbers on internment camps for Japanese-American citizens in WWII?
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