Massive Violent Anti-Milo Protests at UC Berkeley

[FEMA Camp Administrator]

Simply stated, the most recent time in American history where the left was known for both protesting as well as radical terrorist activity coincided with the ascendance and reign of Richard Nixon and was followed by a swelling of the prison-industrial complex. In what world does this work out? I don't mean to suggest that the left here back's this activity, but I'm genuinely perplexed as to the long-term narrative in the actor's mind (I doubt there is one). The denizens of Other Atlas have come out in support of this tactical idiocy.

So, you think that this is all a strategy to get millions in jail?

No, he's saying that could be an unintentional result.

So you got rid of the draft and South Vietnam fell in '75. Maybe a few more other liberal accomplishments, and then what? Deregulation, crime control, social disintegration, and war followed.

[ApatheticAustrian]

according to WAPO's dave weigel, milo stated he didn't plan to out any students.

https://mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/827539154431049732

[Chief Justice Keef]

according to WAPO's dave weigel, milo stated he didn't plan to out any students.

https://mobile.twitter.com/daveweigel/status/827539154431049732

He's lying. Breitbart reported he would attack "sanctuary campuses" before the event, and I posted the pic from earlier.

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

If these black bloc people like commotion so much, I recommend self-immolation.

[Mr. Reactionary]

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

[Associate Justice PiT]

If these black bloc people like commotion so much, I recommend self-immolation.

     That would require them to have principles. They're really provocateurs that want to cause trouble; they're just a different brand from Milo.

[krazen1211]

If Milo knows who the illegals are he should submit their names for deportations!

[ApatheticAustrian]

milo has balls... biggest difference compared to the black bloc and mister trump

[Rjjr77]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

[Mr. Reactionary]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

[publicunofficial]

Pretty much sums up how the right views this.

[Rjjr77]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

When did moral absolutism become the norm?

[Mr. Reactionary]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

When did moral absolutism become the norm?

1776? 1863? 1917? 2009? Very tidal.

[JJC]

Pretty much sums up how the right views this.

Milo is both a homosexual and a Jew. He is also dating a black man.

But nazi.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Pretty much sums up how the right views this.

Milo is both a homosexual and a Jew. He is also dating a black man.

But nazi.

Plus comparing the humane deportation of illegal immigrants to literal genocide is a pretty stupid analogy. Because attenpting to incite an imminent lawless action, directing fighting words or true threats at a person, and conspiring to commit a crime are all types of speech which can be shut down by police. Clearly none of those types of speech were at issue. Punching a stupid racist is no different than a prolife person punching an abortion doctor. A mullah can chant death to america on the sidewalk next to ground zero and it doesn't change the fact that mere words, absent more, are never enough to justify violence.

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.

[Sbane]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

You really think he was going to out white europeans? I don't get why we can't be honest about what this is all about. There is a palpable fear on the right that the "demographics" of this country are changing. They don't care about visa overstays by white people.

[Sbane]

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.

I also wonder if he wouldn't have "outed" people who weren't even here illegally. It would probably just be an enemies hit list of the right wing/alt-right at Berkeley.

[ApatheticAustrian]

Milo is both a homosexual and a Jew. He is also dating a black man.

But nazi.

that's the effing point.

forget racism, think about culturalism.

cause he is a jew he "can" say, that the jews control all financial companies and the media. (and so he does)

throw away those old-school cliche nazi stereotypes.

i agree that milo does it mostly for the money, which puts him at odds with the likes of spencer but being a gay jew isn't a reason you can't be an antisemite and an asshole. ^^

[The world will shine with light in our nightmare]

When you are threatening to out someone as an undocumented immigrant, you are going beyond just "disagreeing" with someone. It's personal at that point. And we are going to stand up as group for those people. If you get punched in the face, it is you own fault for being an asshole.

So the left is officially embracing the principle of "snitches get stitches"? Because your comment totally blames the victims of crime for coming forward as witnesses to a separate crime. Im not saying tattling isnt a dick move and of course a false id might be subject to a slander suit ... but you are acting as though revealing truthful information relevant to a crime is somehow worthy of violent repression. That is disgusting. I smoke weed and I would never endorse violence against some jerk who rats out potheads to the police. Criminals assume the risk of being caught and just because the "fuk borders" crowd hates the idea that not everyone can come and go as they please doesn't mean its not still a crime.

Seriously. Reflect on what you are pushing. By your logic rightwing militias are justified in harassing those who rat on them for gun violations. Drug dealers can take out police snitches.  Pimps can beat up prostitutes who go to the police for help. Casually dismissing violence used to silence the truth is pretty damn bad.

This goes beyond snitching on Milo's part, though.  If that's all he wanted to do, he could have easily gone to the immigration authorities and reported them in private.  (This isn't something I would do as long as these people were otherwise peaceful, law-abiding citizens who might not have even entered this country on their own accord, but that's a different discussion.)  Milo specifically wanted to use his platform to target individuals and open them up to harassment and social ostracization.  That doesn't justify violence, per se, and it certainly doesn't justify destroying property or setting fires like some of these protestors were doing, but attempting to put other people's lives or reputations in danger makes you a fair target for retaliation especially by those whom you seek to destroy.

And Milo wasn't a "victim" even if the people he intended to rat on were genuinely 'guilty.'  He's a British guy with a funny hairdo who gains followers just from being a bully.  And that of course alone should be enough to question the man's own probity.

I also wonder if he wouldn't have "outed" people who weren't even here illegally. It would probably just be an enemies hit list of the right wing/alt-right at Berkeley.

That's probably the case.  Milo's not even American and I doubt he would have any reliable information pertaining to something like this aside from hearsay.  Either way, this is not someone who's deserving of our sympathy, irrespective of how the protestors behaved.

[Mr. Reactionary]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

You really think he was going to out white europeans? I don't get why we can't be honest about what this is all about. There is a palpable fear on the right that the "demographics" of this country are changing. They don't care about visa overstays by white people.

Assuming that everyone thinks identically is foolish. I care about visa overstays by white europeans. I have no anger for illegal immigrants who want to come here. My unease with general immigration is not racially motivated. So 1 weird person invalidates your argument. No one is saying there aren't idiots out there who dislike only the brown immigrants. But using someones stance on deporting illegal immigrants as a full proof litmus test for racism is wrong and it encourages more of this unhelpful absolutist thinking that if someone disagrees about politics they are therefore bad.

[Sbane]

Can you punch an ICE agent in the face? Surely, if you can assault someone for reporting an immigrant, you should be able to do far worse to someone who is actually doing the deporting?

Can't you go somewhere else, like stormfront or something? We obviously need immigration reform, and need to secure the border by instituting E-VERIFY! That being said, people who are already here and and are living their lives like any other Americans should be allowed to stay. If you disagree with that, you are a fucking racist and should leave this forum.

Also, Trump needs to be opposed at every single step of the way, even if it costs 2020. That may not be wholly relevant to this thread (I honestly don't give a sh**t about Milo lol), but it's relevant in the direction this country goes. Fascism cannot be accepted as business as usual. It must be opposed at every opportunity possible. Screw the "moderates" who don't like it. Although it must be peaceful.....except for a punch in the face for some know-nothing loser fascist.

You really think people who don't feel illegal immigrants should be allowed to stay only think so because of racism? There are plenty of other reasons

This. But apparently even complaining about visa overstays by white europeans is super dee duper secret racist code or something.

You really think he was going to out white europeans? I don't get why we can't be honest about what this is all about. There is a palpable fear on the right that the "demographics" of this country are changing. They don't care about visa overstays by white people.

Assuming that everyone thinks identically is foolish. I care about visa overstays by white europeans. I have no anger for illegal immigrants who want to come here. My unease with general immigration is not racially motivated. So 1 weird person invalidates your argument. No one is saying there aren't idiots out there who dislike only the brown immigrants. But using someones stance on deporting illegal immigrants as a full proof litmus test for racism is wrong and it encourages more of this unhelpful absolutist thinking that if someone disagrees about politics they are therefore bad.

You might not be able to tell from my posts, but I also think that immigration needs to be slowed down at this point of time (due to the economic conditions), with priority given to those who will generate income and taxes for the government. What I vehemently disagree with is how the Trumpists are starting to treat legal immigrants and people of color in general, including citizens. While I would have disagreed with the EO regarding the 7 countries, what really gets me mad is how it also targets people who are already here in the country, and for a while, green card holders.

So if you think immigration needs to be slowed down, that is fine. Or if you are against illegal immigration, that's fine too. What is going on in Trump's America is totally different. They are going to go after legal immigrants who are already here. And no, it won't be the European ones. Steve Bannon is in charge of Trump now. And I don't even think he has the country behind him. All he has to do is keep us fat, happy and misinformed and he can do whatever he wants. That's why he must be opposed at every step of the way.

[Confused Democrat]

As far as I'm concerned, all of these violent protests are false-flag incidents being carried out by alt-right operatives in order smear/delegitimize the left.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

As far as I'm concerned, all of these violent protests are false-flag incidents being carried out by alt-right operatives in order smear/delegitimize the left.

Pretending something doesn't exist doesn't make it go away. Expose them for the devils they are or stop being an ignoramus.

[ApatheticAustrian]

idiotic idiots do idiotic things in the name of values they pretend to value.