Significant legal immigration reduction, not likely to happen

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     "coalition of the ascendant" = LOL. Winning elections is a little more complicated than that.

Exactly. If Republicans/right wingers want minorities to continue voting for the Democrats, that is exactly what will happen. I support Ryan's plan on Medicare, for example, but I am not voting for a Republican in the near future unless they specifically oppose Trump. Fascism must be opposed at all costs, even if that means I pay 2% more in taxes.

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I actually wouldn't be against wholesale legal immigration reform (disclosure: my parents immigrated from Sweden in the late 1980s before I was born)

Imitating Canada's system would be best, IMO. Figure a society that has made multiculturalism work should be closely observed

I also agree with this. Illegal immigration needs to be stopped and the legal immigration system needs to be tilted even further to allow talented people who will be productive members of society to come in first. We don't need to bring in people to end up working at Mcdonalds.

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I think it might happen, but it's important to remember that people are mostly fine with the amount of legal immigrants in the country. The climate around legal immigration in the US isn't what it is in Europe.

Not really.

I think people either oppose immigration or they support it. People who say "I oppose illegal immigration but support people who come here the right way" are just 1) attempting to sound moderate 2) don't live in urban areas so don't realize they extent of legal immigration and are severely underestimating it. Conversely, the left (both the mainstream centrist Democrats and the far left) no longer make any distinction at all between illegal and legal immigration.

no I totally support that, as I support expanding the amount of green cards and visas given  to immigrants but I also support Romney E Verify Plan

Why? Frankly this is just a stupid position. It's like saying you think people who smoke pot should be put in jail because it's illegal but you also want to legalize it. Is it just fetishism for the law?

Because when you control who immigrates here, you can pick and choose who you want to come. If you choose a bunch of people who will create jobs or will have 6 figure salaries, America benefits because they pay into Medicare and Social Security without drawing on it anytime soon.