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True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)
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« on: February 03, 2017, 09:24:53 PM »


Donald J. Trump ‏@realDonaldTrump  3h3 hours ago
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 We must keep "evil" out of our country!


Too late. Trump's already here.
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« Reply #1 on: February 05, 2017, 09:47:03 AM »

I don't think his restraining order will hold up, and thankfully, many of the visas that were already revoked will take months to get back if they even try. By then, hopefully, the President's order will be re-instated.

It is more important to protect American's safety than to protect the emotional feelings of foreigners. Safety first. Trust me, Trump has more support across the country than some on the coasts may think. The people freaking out about this never liked him anyway, so I don't get worked up about it.

FDR locked AMERICANS up in camps and Democrats idolize him. That was terrible. Saying we want a temporary ban on immigrants from certain countries is hardly that controversial.

Since when did you become Russian?  I have to assume you did so given your extreme whataboutism.  The EO did nothing to improve our safety. If anything, the botched way it was implemented degraded our security.  I agree with you that our safety is important, but I see it as more important than the emotional feelings of cowardly xenophobes, overreacting to pinpricks. Even worse, the EO doesn't target the countries from which most terrorists originate who have struck the US while here.
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« Reply #2 on: February 05, 2017, 10:03:09 AM »

Even worse, the EO doesn't target the countries from which most terrorists originate who have struck the US while here.

We don't know that for sure. How the hell do we know what comes across the desk of the President? Who are we to assume?

We don't have to assume.  We have the text of the EO and know which seven nations it targets.  We know the nationalities of those who have committed attacks here.  These are facts and they show a complete disconnect.  I realize that facts are unpopular among the followers of the Groppenfueher, but they still are facts.  The last time we saw such an utter disconnect from reality, the US invaded Iraq because of Al-Qaeda. (Well not really, but that was the excuse that was given us.)
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« Reply #3 on: February 05, 2017, 02:15:23 PM »

Now, when there is finally a President in the US taking decisive action to tighten border controls and they all start screaming
If he'd targeted the seven countries that have caused the most problems, there'd be less screaming. If his "decisive" action was something that would actually make us safer instead of being a placebo for cowardly xenophobes, there'd be less screaming.
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« Reply #4 on: February 05, 2017, 06:09:36 PM »

More fake news from the Groppenfuehrer.  The EO wasn't having people be checked very carefully, tho that is what was already done when the visas were granted.  The EO was banning people from coming in for no other reason than country of origin.  I have no objection to people from certain areas being subject to a higher level of scrutiny, but they already were being so subjected before Trump took office.
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« Reply #5 on: February 06, 2017, 09:09:20 PM »

Trump's sister is a judge, so he will be told what to do.
I thought the fact that the Groppenfueher refuses to do what he is told to do was what endeared him to you and the alt-Nazis.
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