Dutch election, March 15 2017

[Santander]

I do not endorse Golden Dawn, but they are the only ones who stand for Constantinople.

[Goldwater]

I'll admit I haven't been following Dutch politics, but what has VVD done to be considered "fascist" by people here?

[Green Line]

Tough call.  Lean VVD right now.

[JA]

There are really only three options:
-Communist Front (PvdA, SP, GroenLinks, PvdD, DENK, Nieuwe Wegen)
-Fascist Alliance (VVD, PVV, CDA, ChristenUnie, SGP, 50Plus, VNL, FVD)
-D66

You... you really don't know much about political philosophy and ideology, do you? Even the PVV isn't Fascist, it's more of a right-wing populist and Dutch nationalist party; nor is the SP anything more than Democratic Socialist at best. Most of the rest, save for the Christian parties, are basically varying forms of liberalism, honestly.

Personally, it's an easy vote for me - GroenLinks!

[DavidB.]

There are really only three options:
-Communist Front (PvdA, SP, GroenLinks, PvdD, DENK, Nieuwe Wegen)
-Fascist Alliance (VVD, PVV, CDA, ChristenUnie, SGP, 50Plus, VNL, FVD)
-D66

You've got to be trolling now, right? I hope you are. Otherwise I have no words.

[Intell]

[1] Socialist Party (SP)
[2] Pirate Party of the Netherlands (PPNL)
[3] Nieuwe Wegen
[4] Party for the Animals (PvdD)
[5] Free Thinking Party (VZP)
[6] Party for Human and for Spirit (MenS)
[7] 50 Plus (50+)
[8] Labour Party (PvdA)
[9] Democrats 66 (D66)
[10] Christian Democratic Appeal (CDA)
[11] Christian Union (CU)
[12] Green Left (GL) (Has a bunch of stupid SJW's, who excuse the actions of immigrants due to multiculturalism, excuses islamists and has been a breeding ground for islamists, have/had turk nationalists in the party (am i wrong about this?) and have some nutty ideas, regarding the middle-east, and foreign policy.)
[13] Independent Senate Group (OSF)
[14] Party for Freedom (PVV)
[15] People's Party for Freedom and Democracy (VVD)
[16] Geen Peil (GP)
[17] DENK
[18] Reformed Political Party [SGP]
[18] Democratic Forum (FvD)
[19] Libertarian Party (LP)

[Kingpoleon]

There are really only three options:
-Communist Front (PvdA, SP, GroenLinks, PvdD, DENK, Nieuwe Wegen)
-Fascist Alliance (VVD, PVV, CDA, ChristenUnie, SGP, 50Plus, VNL, FVD)
-D66

This is true.

I'm glad to see others are standing up and saying no to the fascists and communists here and now!

[MAINEiac4434]

D66 mostly due to my distaste for SP, PVDA and GL.

[Kingpoleon]

D66 mostly due to my distaste for SP, PVDA and GL.

In all seriousness, what's wrong with GL?

[MAINEiac4434]

D66 mostly due to my distaste for SP, PVDA and GL.

In all seriousness, what's wrong with GL?

Anti nuclear energy. It's one of our best weapons against the climate crisis and far too many so-called environmentalists oppose it. The world is too plugged-in for solar and wind alone and we need actions now to stop the crisis. We can't wait for solar and wind to be able to power the world. It'll take too long. Should we keep building windmills and solar panels? Of course. And we should keep developing their capabilities. But we should also keep building nuclear power plants. We need all renewable energy, as quickly as possible. We can't wall-off one option just because it sounds scary.

Dutch posters on here have told me that nuclear energy isn't a big issue in the Netherlands. But it is to me. And if it wasn't for that one issue, I'd probably be fine with them. But to me, it just seems like shooting yourself in both feet.

[nicholas.slaydon]

PvdA

[Intell]

PvdA

No. Unless, you've gone massively to the right.

[Grand Wizard Lizard of the Klan]

I am somehow between voting on PvdD, SGP/CU and CDA but I am not yet convinced.

[mvd10]

I'll admit I haven't been following Dutch politics, but what has VVD done to be considered "fascist" by people here?

Nothing. They're your average centre-right conservative liberal party. Tax cuts, tough on crime, things like that (but they are liberal on abortion and gay rights). They would do pretty much everything to remain in power though (but they have ruled out working with the PVV).

[YL]

Voted GL in the poll, but could imagine voting for PvdA or D66 (though the latter seem a bit right-wing for me at the moment).

[YL]

I do not endorse Golden Dawn, but they are the only ones who stand for Constantinople.

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[DC Al Fine]

SP, for lack of better options. (PVV is obviously terrible but its striking that they're actually better than VVD on some austerity related issues)

That's an... interesting choice for someone with an E score of -1.5.

[MAINEiac4434]

Voted GL in the poll, but could imagine voting for PvdA or D66 (though the latter seem a bit right-wing for me at the moment).

Yeah, Pechtold is significantly to the right of even the D66 base of support on economic issues. The base of the party seems to want it to be social democratic, maybe only slightly to the right of PvdA. Pechtold wants to bring it in a more Nick Clegg-Liberal Democrat direction.

[Person Man]

Democrats 66(not a fascist or communist, sane, normal).

There are no fascists or communists on the ballot, and most parties are moderate heroes.

Literally every other parties are fascists and communists.

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There's definitely something for everyone. I'd just vote to keep the Netherlands weird...so maybe VVD or D66...maybe a lefty but not too lefty party.

[nicholas.slaydon]

PvdA

No. Unless, you've gone massively to the right.

While I might have to somewhat hold my nose and vote for the Labour Party, I couldn't vote for a party that embraces Euroscepticism, like the Socialist Party.

[mvd10]

PvdA

No. Unless, you've gone massively to the right.

While I might have to somewhat hold my nose and vote for the Labour Party, I couldn't vote for a party that embraces Euroscepticism, like the Socialist Party.

Then why not GroenLinks? They have become more left-wing under Klaver.

[Filuwaúrdjan]

[mencken]

PVV (sane)

[Devout Centrist]

Not the guy with the weird hair and cringeworthy ideas

[nicholas.slaydon]

PvdA

No. Unless, you've gone massively to the right.

While I might have to somewhat hold my nose and vote for the Labour Party, I couldn't vote for a party that embraces Euroscepticism, like the Socialist Party.

Then why not GroenLinks? They have become more left-wing under Klaver.

A large wing of the party advocates pacifism even if The Netherlands is attacked, I don't like their ideas to expand EU markets, reform NATO, abolish the Dutch senate, abolish the monarchy, "democratize" the IMF and World Bank etc.