Could Republicans and Democrats shift platforms on the LGBT?

[5280]

Do you think in another 10-20 years, the GOP and Democratic parties will switch their platforms on the LGBT. Trump has been the most LGBT friendly president running as a Republican since the founding of the party.  

Likewise, the Democrats could be more neutral on the LGBT, by supporting of Muslim and people from the Middle East as refugees since they're for open door policy on immigration. We all know that how extreme Muslims treat women and people who are not straight.

There are pro-life LGBT people out there who like to adopt babies and kids from foster homes, neglected families or families who are financially unstable.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

The Republicans will, the Democrats likely won't.  It will be interesting to see how the Democrats deal with immigrants who don't share their views on LGBT issues.

[JerryArkansas]

Two posts in and this thread is already full of #analysis.

[5280]

Secondly, there are the vegan, pro life, anti-death penalty conservatives out there. Not sure what their % is of the US population.

[The_Doctor]

No. By 2030, gay rights will be universally accepted as will be gay adoptions and the idea of discriminating against the gays (bakers, etc) universally reviled and banned on some level. That's just how the cookie crumbles. There's a reason Trump won't do anything about gay rights from a conservative perspective. It's a dead battle.

[Badger]

Democrats won't need to. Republicans will by necessity, albeit slowly.

[Hindsight was 2020]

Nice sh*tposting 7.5/10

[🦀🎂🦀🎂]

Lol

[Famous Mortimer]

Muslims in the UK are much more conservative than Muslims in America and they still vote Labour and Labour is still consistently socially liberal.

As long as the Democrats keep voting to let their family members come here, and keep voting to give them money for having children, socially conservative Hispanic and Muslim immigrants will vote for them despite their social views.

[Blue3]

Welcoming Muslims and LGBT+ people doesn't mean we need to pick one over the other.

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both African-Americans and Hispanics, "because they hate each other."

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both the religious Civil Rights advocates and the Atheists.

etc.

[BlueSwan]

Do you think in another 10-20 years, the GOP and Democratic parties will switch their platforms on the LGBT. Trump has been the most LGBT friendly president running as a Republican since the founding of the party.  

Likewise, the Democrats could be more neutral on the LGBT, by supporting of Muslim and people from the Middle East as refugees since they're for open door policy on immigration. We all know that how extreme Muslims treat women and people who are not straight.

There are pro-life LGBT people out there who like to adopt babies and kids from foster homes, neglected families or families who are financially unstable.

Absolutely not.

On social issues, the US are running a couple of decades behind northwestern Europe, so you can pretty much just look at us and then know what is going to happen.

Gay rights will basically become a litmus test for anyone center-left and left. You cannot be on the left and not support gay rights in Northwestern Europe. One could argue that the US are almost already there, the transition has been happening fast and furiously over the last few years.

Since gay rights is now regarded as a fundamental western value in Northwestern Europe, the center-right and the fiscal right has already adopted more or less the same view on gay rights as the left. But there is considerable scepsis beneath the surface. In Denmark you can pretty much know for certain that whenever somebody on the conservative right is making an argument for gay rights, it is within the context of critizising muslims.

The first movers on these issues are always on the left, while the moderates and parts of the right will gradually adjust somewhat feet-draggingly.

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Welcoming Muslims and LGBT+ people doesn't mean we need to pick one over the other.

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both African-Americans and Hispanics, "because they hate each other."

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both the religious Civil Rights advocates and the Atheists.

etc.

Yeah, but many Democrats view opponents of gay marriage as no different than the KKK.  It's hard to see how they would tolerate immigrants with those views.

[The_Doctor]

Do you think in another 10-20 years, the GOP and Democratic parties will switch their platforms on the LGBT. Trump has been the most LGBT friendly president running as a Republican since the founding of the party.  

Likewise, the Democrats could be more neutral on the LGBT, by supporting of Muslim and people from the Middle East as refugees since they're for open door policy on immigration. We all know that how extreme Muslims treat women and people who are not straight.

There are pro-life LGBT people out there who like to adopt babies and kids from foster homes, neglected families or families who are financially unstable.

Absolutely not.

On social issues, the US are running a couple of decades behind northwestern Europe, so you can pretty much just look at us and then know what is going to happen.

Gay rights will basically become a litmus test for anyone center-left and left. You cannot be on the left and not support gay rights in Northwestern Europe. One could argue that the US are almost already there, the transition has been happening fast and furiously over the last few years.

Since gay rights is now regarded as a fundamental western value in Northwestern Europe, the center-right and the fiscal right has already adopted more or less the same view on gay rights as the left. But there is considerable scepsis beneath the surface. In Denmark you can pretty much know for certain that whenever somebody on the conservative right is making an argument for gay rights, it is within the context of critizising muslims.

The first movers on these issues are always on the left, while the moderates and parts of the right will gradually adjust somewhat feet-draggingly.

[RINO Tom]

Parties don't switch platforms on anything, so no.  I don't think I need to explain why such a simplistic notion is nonsense on a forum dedicated to exploring the complexity of politics.

[Green Line]

lol NO!

[Person Man]

This is some Limbaughian Nonsense.

[Xing]

Republicans will probably not focus much on LGBT rights in the future, so I guess they'll be more pro-LGBT in a way. There's no way the Democrats will become anti-LGBT.

[publicunofficial]

This is some Limbaughian Nonsense.

[Ebowed]

Republicans will eventually accept LGBT rights, although they will probably veer further to the right before they meet America in the middle.  Pence could be the homophobe's last hurrah.  Keep a close eye on state governments over the next few years since Trump will not be doing anything to interfere with GOP efforts to roll back marriage equality, enshrine a right to discrimination in the law, and write into law increasingly farcical abortion restrictions (Arkansas is apparently allowing rapists to sue their victims if they get an abortion).

As for the xenophobic assumption in this thread, Muslim immigrants have generally been more supportive of LGBT rights and reproductive autonomy for women than, say, Republican voters.  The greatest threat to women, gays, lesbians, bisexuals and transgender people is from the extreme fundamentalists that currently occupy the Republican party.

[SWE]

Welcoming Muslims and LGBT+ people doesn't mean we need to pick one over the other.

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both African-Americans and Hispanics, "because they hate each other."

Once upon a time, people thought the Democrats couldn't welcome both the religious Civil Rights advocates and the Atheists.

etc.

Yeah, but many Democrats view opponents of gay marriage as no different than the KKK.  It's hard to see how they would tolerate immigrants with those views.

It's interesting how you seem genuinely incapable of comprehending the concept of someone supporting the rights of people who don't agree with them.

[MasterJedi]

The mainstream of the party already accepts it. The 30-40% of the base that are hard core evangelical/Trumpers will have to die off for that to be fully accepted though. They see them as fake SJWs, just look at Pence, it's that wing that will keep it from widely occurring.