Trump again defends Putin by bashing the US "we aren't innocent"

[Hindsight was 2020]

In a leak on Bill O’Reilly sit-down with Trump tomorrow this exchange happened

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The pee tape is real folks https://twitter.com/FoxNews/status/828033214782464000

[Mr. Morden]

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/18/trump-on-putin-well-our-country-does-a-lot-of-killing-too/

He's been saying stuff like this for months. Trump really does believe America isn't great or exceptional -but that under his leadership, it can be made so. I think he's right.

[Xing]

I mean, he's right that our country isn't "innocent", but that doesn't justify respecting a tyrant like Putin.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

What xing said

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

I mean, he's right that our country isn't "innocent", but that doesn't justify respecting a tyrant like Putin.

-Putin's great on his own.

[Fusionmunster]

All of Trump's damage during these last 2 weeks have been self inflicted. He just continues to say and do stupid stuff. He'll be in the 30s favorbility wise by the middle of the year and its all his fault because he keeps saying stupid sh**t like this.

[Ban my account ffs!]

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/18/trump-on-putin-well-our-country-does-a-lot-of-killing-too/

He's been saying stuff like this for months. Trump really does believe America isn't great or exceptional -but that under his leadership, it can be made so. I think he's right.

So.. what you're saying is..

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http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/18/trump-on-putin-well-our-country-does-a-lot-of-killing-too/

He's been saying stuff like this for months. Trump really does believe America isn't great or exceptional -but that under his leadership, it can be made so. I think he's right.

So.. what you're saying is..

-There's a difference between pride in your country and thinking it great and exceptional.

[Mr. Morden]

http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/18/trump-on-putin-well-our-country-does-a-lot-of-killing-too/

He's been saying stuff like this for months. Trump really does believe America isn't great or exceptional -but that under his leadership, it can be made so. I think he's right.

No, I don't think that's quite right.  Trump simply doesn't believe "greatness" has anything to do with one's values.  He never talks about America's values, but about prosperity, security, military prowess, etc.  He thinks we should love the country because it's our country, not because of any high-minded values:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/colin-kaepernick-and-patriotism-in-the-obama-era.html

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http://hotair.com/archives/2015/12/18/trump-on-putin-well-our-country-does-a-lot-of-killing-too/

He's been saying stuff like this for months. Trump really does believe America isn't great or exceptional -but that under his leadership, it can be made so. I think he's right.

No, I don't think that's quite right.  Trump simply doesn't believe "greatness" has anything to do with one's values.  He never talks about America's values, but about prosperity, security, military prowess, etc.  He thinks we should love the country because it's our country, not because of any high-minded values:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2016/09/colin-kaepernick-and-patriotism-in-the-obama-era.html

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-That's also true.

[Deblano]

Trump is half-right. We've done a LOT of nasty s***, especially during the Cold War.

Still don't believe in gushing over Putin, tho.

[Santander]

Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

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Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

-Why are you back to D?

[pbrower2a]

Just imagine this exchange in 1973:

From CBS News -- Walter Cronkite's Super Bowl interview with President McGovern

Walter Cronkite: Do you respect Leonid Brezhnev?

George McGovern: I respect him, but --

Walter Cronkite: Do you? Why?

McGovern: Well, I respect a lot of people, but that does not mean I'm going to get along with him.* He's a leader of his country. I say it's better to get along with the Soviet Union than not. And if the Soviet Union helps us get a negotiated settlement in Vietnam, which is a reasonable objective, that's a good thing. Will I get along with him? I have no idea.

Cronkite: But he's a killer. Brezhnev is a killer.

McGovern: There are a lot of killers. We've got a lot of killers. What do you think -- our country's not so innocent?

*Not that George McGovern would have ever made that grammatical error.

Any questions?

[Santander]

Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

-Why are you back to D?

In honor of our great heroes like Andrew Jackson and James Knox Polk.

[Likely Voter]

I preferred this argument in the original Russian

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

-Why are you back to D?

In honor of our great heroes like Andrew Jackson and James Knox Polk.

-Sure, they were great. But that was ages ago, and they were pretty much the opposite of Barack Obama's Democratic Party (see county maps of White vote). The Dems have changed too much since the great Age of Jackson for me to ID as one of them.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

Tell that to gay Russians and anyone who opposes him. Really, how can you admire such a disgusting authoritarian being?

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

Wonderful. I support Trump because of his admiration and respect for President Putin, who is a great leader.

Tell that to gay Russians and anyone who opposes him. Really, how can you admire such a disgusting authoritarian being?

-They're better off than in Saudi Arabia or Pakistan, that's for sure. And traditional values are not a bad thing.

[Maxwell]

literally the true leftist arguement.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

literally the true leftist arguement.

Can you imagine the primal screams of rage had a Democratic President (Obama, or Hillary) said this, or anything like it?

[Blue3]

It will be amazing if Republicans pick up this line and quit with the exceptionalism... like, this is the stuff of the truly radical far-left.

[Bismarck]

Terrible. Trump will not get my support for reelection with statements like this.

[I spent the winter writing songs about getting better]

So a US President is actually using the "and you are lynching negroes" fallacy...against the US. Amazing.