Bannon: the US is going to war with China this decade

[Blue3]

Bannon: the US is going to war with China this decade

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/donald-trump-steve-bannon-china-south-sea-war-chinese-us-president-special-counsellor-a7556546.html

[Crumpets]

"Trump is non-interventionist!"
"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

[Blue3]

"Trump is non-interventionist!"
"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

I hope Trump will have the sense to not do this. Even a President Bill Kristol probably wouldn't go to war with f**king China.

[MT Treasurer]

"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

Well, she is, but that doesn't mean Trump is good when it comes to foreign policy.

[Deblano]

"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

Well, she is, but that doesn't mean Trump is good when it comes to foreign policy.

[The Free North]

We've worked so hard to build a post-war society that actually trades and (kind of) coexists peacefully. Everything this man has done so far has undermined the very fabric of international peace and stability that has brought BILLIONS of people out of poverty and into dignity.

The protectionism and militarism and nationalism have reverberating effects. This is the essence of the security dilemma. Trump has, in a matter of weeks, made the world a more dangerous place by his rhetoric alone.

[Blue3]

"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

Well, she is, but that doesn't mean Trump is good when it comes to foreign policy.

How is she more hawkish than Trump and his chosen administration?

Who has already threatened war with Iran and China and Iraq again for their oil (and probably soon North Korea, and even rumored to threaten to invade Mexico), plus the war against Syria and botched raids in Yemen?

[Chunk Yogurt for President!]

Pray that Bannon has no influence over US foreign policy.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

"Trump is non-interventionist!"
"Hillary is the hawkish candidate!"

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I supported Trump because I identify with him. All of this post is irrelevant reasoning used to get to that conclusion.

[Dr. Arch]

This would be a disaster leagues beyond Iraq. We're talking about a potential WWIII scenario here.

[Frodo]

Hillary Clinton is a dove compared to this madman. 

[DavidB.]

Uh. Let's just not do this, lmao.

[Santander]

Great news. This is what I want more than anything.

[Frozen Sky Ever Why]

Great news. This is what I want more than anything.

Confirmed troll.

[Santander]

Great news. This is what I want more than anything.

Confirmed troll.

Or how about Trump's anti-China instincts are my favorite part about him?

[Fusionmunster]

Bannon will be gone by the midterms. Im not worried.

[pbrower2a]

When one has a Head of State similar in temperament to Wilhelm II, major wars are possible by accident even without malice. Cutting off trade with China practically ensures that Chinese manufacturing will quickly go from civilian goods to sell to America to military goods to be used against America.  Figure that someone who says reckless things against Muslims and Hispanics can easily turn against Asian-Americans... people too respectful of learning and formal education for the taste of an anti-intellectual demagogue.  (One can say the same about blacks and Hispanics in their large, well-educated middle classes, which is a different story because of different cultural realities from those of any Asian groups).

A Sino-American war against a racist America will not go well for America even if there are no nukes. Regime change will be the objective of the Chinese, and it would not have to be a Marxist-Leninist regime to satisfy the Chinese government. A liberal government with the rule of law would be more than adequate. But that liberal government would be unable to protect war criminals... something like Japan in late 1945.

[afleitch]

I will welcome the Chinese liberation of California.

[Blue3]

When one has a Head of State similar in temperament to Wilhelm II, major wars are possible by accident even without malice. Cutting off trade with China practically ensures that Chinese manufacturing will quickly go from civilian goods to sell to America to military goods to be used against America.  Figure that someone who says reckless things against Muslims and Hispanics can easily turn against Asian-Americans... people too respectful of learning and formal education for the taste of an anti-intellectual demagogue.  (One can say the same about blacks and Hispanics in their large, well-educated middle classes, which is a different story because of different cultural realities from those of any Asian groups).

A Sino-American war against a racist America will not go well for America even if there are no nukes. Regime change will be the objective of the Chinese, and it would not have to be a Marxist-Leninist regime to satisfy the Chinese government. A liberal government with the rule of law would be more than adequate. But that liberal government would be unable to protect war criminals... something like Japan in late 1945.

Didn't the military come up with a plan during the Korean War that the US only had to drop a dozen nuclear bombs at strategic locations (such as near the sources of major rivers) and it would poison their entire water/food supply and lead to mass starvation that would kill off 90% of the Chinese population?

I also don't think Chinese missiles are capable of reaching beyond the West Coast... and they have a much, much smaller stockpile.

[Absentee Voting Ghost of Ruin]

When one has a Head of State similar in temperament to Wilhelm II, major wars are possible by accident even without malice. Cutting off trade with China practically ensures that Chinese manufacturing will quickly go from civilian goods to sell to America to military goods to be used against America.  Figure that someone who says reckless things against Muslims and Hispanics can easily turn against Asian-Americans... people too respectful of learning and formal education for the taste of an anti-intellectual demagogue.  (One can say the same about blacks and Hispanics in their large, well-educated middle classes, which is a different story because of different cultural realities from those of any Asian groups).

A Sino-American war against a racist America will not go well for America even if there are no nukes. Regime change will be the objective of the Chinese, and it would not have to be a Marxist-Leninist regime to satisfy the Chinese government. A liberal government with the rule of law would be more than adequate. But that liberal government would be unable to protect war criminals... something like Japan in late 1945.

Didn't the military come up with a plan during the Korean War that the US only had to drop a dozen nuclear bombs at strategic locations (such as near the sources of major rivers) and it would poison their entire water/food supply and lead to mass starvation that would kill off 90% of the Chinese population?

I also don't think Chinese missiles are capable of reaching beyond the West Coast... and they have a much, much smaller stockpile.

And of course, missiles are China's ONLY means of getting nukes to the US. They wouldn't possibly plant any nukes in the massive shipping trade between the two countries and detonate them in key port cities.

[Xing]

Ugh, Bannon is truly terrible. Trump pls deport.

[JA]

Ugh, Bannon is truly terrible. Trump pls deport.

Deporting the President doesn't seem very feasible.

[Ban my account ffs!]

When one has a Head of State similar in temperament to Wilhelm II, major wars are possible by accident even without malice. Cutting off trade with China practically ensures that Chinese manufacturing will quickly go from civilian goods to sell to America to military goods to be used against America.  Figure that someone who says reckless things against Muslims and Hispanics can easily turn against Asian-Americans... people too respectful of learning and formal education for the taste of an anti-intellectual demagogue.  (One can say the same about blacks and Hispanics in their large, well-educated middle classes, which is a different story because of different cultural realities from those of any Asian groups).

A Sino-American war against a racist America will not go well for America even if there are no nukes. Regime change will be the objective of the Chinese, and it would not have to be a Marxist-Leninist regime to satisfy the Chinese government. A liberal government with the rule of law would be more than adequate. But that liberal government would be unable to protect war criminals... something like Japan in late 1945.

Didn't the military come up with a plan during the Korean War that the US only had to drop a dozen nuclear bombs at strategic locations (such as near the sources of major rivers) and it would poison their entire water/food supply and lead to mass starvation that would kill off 90% of the Chinese population?

I also don't think Chinese missiles are capable of reaching beyond the West Coast... and they have a much, much smaller stockpile.

Then the third angel sounded his trumpet, and a great star burning like a torch fell from heaven and landed on a third of the rivers and on the springs of water. 11The name of the star is Wormwood. A third of the waters turned bitter like wormwood oil, and many people died from the bitter waters.

[The_Doctor]

Pray that Bannon has no influence over US foreign policy.

He's on the National Security Council. By default, he has SOME influence over U.S. foreign policy.