Ipsos national poll: Trudeau 40% Trump 33%

[angus]

How many Americans even know who Trudeau is?

it's a household word, dynastic like Kennedy.  They may not know or care which trudeau you're talking about, but they know that trudeau is a brand name in canadian politics.

[angus]

How many Americans even know who Trudeau is?

it's a household word, dynastic like Kennedy.  They may not know or care which trudeau you're talking about, but they know that trudeau is a brand name in canadian politics.

Yeah, hard no on that one. I had no idea who he or his family was before he became PM and I pay attention far more than most

"hardno"?  hardon, maybe? 

anyway, I pay zero attention to this stuff--never heard the word shitgibbon till today--but I definitely recognize the name Trudeau.  It's canadian, and it's canadian authority.  It also sort of reeks, like the word Kennedy and the word Bush and the word Clinton.  But it doesn't reek as much as the word Trump.  People understand that.  People recognize the name Trudeau and they know that it doesn't smell as bad as the word Trump.  The polling data supports that assertion.  They may not know the first name of Trudeau, or exactly what he does--I know I don't--but they know that it's a name associated with governmental power in Canada.

[angus]

I didn't know about the Trudeaus until like 2013 or so

hmm.  Probably minutiae, but I'm thinking that pluralization in this case requires an -x ending.  Just as the plural of chapeau is chapeaux and the plural of manteau is manteaux, shouldn't the plural of Trudeau be Trudeaux?  n'est–ce pas?