How do you think the 9th Circuit will go with Trump's EO Ban?
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« on: February 07, 2017, 05:37:32 PM »
I kind of believe they will either overturn it something similar.
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« Reply #1 on: February 07, 2017, 05:39:43 PM »
I believe they're going to keep the TRO in place, but I'm not sure if they'll overturn the EO or not.

I'm leaning towards them overturning.
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« Reply #2 on: February 07, 2017, 06:01:35 PM »
It's the 9th.
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« Reply #3 on: February 07, 2017, 06:22:21 PM »
Judging by how the oral argument is going, overturn. The judges seem rather unpersuaded by the Trump adminstration's case.
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« Reply #4 on: February 07, 2017, 06:25:15 PM »
Yeah, the judges don't seem enthused by the Trump Admin's arguments
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« Reply #5 on: February 07, 2017, 06:26:01 PM »
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« Reply #6 on: February 07, 2017, 06:34:39 PM »
Quote from: Mondale_was_an_insidejob on February 07, 2017, 06:30:27 PM
Anyone else listening to the case live.?..this Trump lawyer is getting hammered by the judges...he's stuttering and stammering all over the place like a fool.

Where does Trump find such incompetent people?
The Department of Justice.
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« Reply #7 on: February 07, 2017, 06:38:48 PM »
After listening to the DOJ's oral argument, I'm convinced that the 9th is going to overturn this EO.
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« Reply #8 on: February 07, 2017, 06:41:52 PM »
I think any parts of the EO that apply to people who have already previously been admitted to the United States will be toast. Whether the whole EO will be overturned is a tougher question, but I'd lean towards the 9th overturning it after learning more about the arguments on both sides on the establishment clause issue and after listening to some of the oral arguments.
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« Reply #9 on: February 07, 2017, 06:50:55 PM »
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« Reply #10 on: February 07, 2017, 06:54:23 PM »
I wish Noah Purcell brought more evidence, the judges don't seem to thrilled he didn't. Especially Judge Clifton.
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« Reply #11 on: February 07, 2017, 06:57:24 PM »
Feeling like the 9th might side with Trump damn
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« Reply #12 on: February 07, 2017, 06:57:43 PM »
Be patient.
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« Reply #13 on: February 07, 2017, 07:02:31 PM »
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Feeling like the 9th might side with Trump damn

Why? What's happening?

I could only listen to the beginning on my way to class.
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« Reply #14 on: February 07, 2017, 07:03:45 PM »
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Quote from: Hindsight is 2020 on February 07, 2017, 06:57:24 PM
Feeling like the 9th might side with Trump damn

Why? What's happening?

I could only listen to the beginning on my way to class.

I don't think they'll side with Trump, but basically the judges wanted more proof instead of accusations, and Purcell didn't have it.
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« Reply #15 on: February 07, 2017, 07:04:03 PM »
Time for everyone's regular reminder that trying to predict a court's ruling based on a judge's questions at oral argument can kind of be a crap shoot unless you really know a particular judge well.
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« Reply #16 on: February 07, 2017, 07:05:09 PM »
Quote from: SteveRogers on February 07, 2017, 07:04:03 PM
Time for everyone's regular reminder that trying to predict a court's ruling based on a judge's questions at oral argument can kind of be a crap shoot unless you really know a particular judge well.

Exactly, and all three have ambiguous history.
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« Reply #17 on: February 07, 2017, 07:06:29 PM »
« Edited: February 07, 2017, 07:08:06 PM by Hindsight is 2020 »
Quote from: Confused Democrat on February 07, 2017, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Hindsight is 2020 on February 07, 2017, 06:57:24 PM
Feeling like the 9th might side with Trump damn

Why? What's happening?

I could only listen to the beginning on my way to class.
Noah didn't bring a lot of hard evidence that this is a religious ban
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« Reply #18 on: February 07, 2017, 07:09:10 PM »
Quote from: Hindsight is 2020 on February 07, 2017, 07:06:29 PM
Quote from: Confused Democrat on February 07, 2017, 07:02:31 PM
Quote from: Hindsight is 2020 on February 07, 2017, 06:57:24 PM
Feeling like the 9th might side with Trump damn

Why? What's happening?

I could only listen to the beginning on my way to class.
Noah didn't bring a lot of hard evidence that this is a religious ban


Well shoot, guess it's a crapshoot.
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« Reply #19 on: February 07, 2017, 07:12:13 PM »
Clifton sounded like he's support the government

Friedland sounded like she'd support Washington

Canby sounded like he was meh about it all.
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« Reply #20 on: February 07, 2017, 07:14:04 PM »
I watched some of that, and it is really obvious that the older man who was appointed by Carter will be the swing vote here, and it seems to mostly be about whether or not to extend the stay.  The bottom line is that this is going to SCOTUS.
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« Reply #21 on: February 07, 2017, 07:20:06 PM »

I should know this, but I will take this opportunity to stick my head out and find out:
What is the 9th's reputation that you are referring to?
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« Reply #22 on: February 07, 2017, 07:22:10 PM »
68% of the courts justices have been appointed by a democratic president.
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« Reply #23 on: February 07, 2017, 07:24:24 PM »

It also has a reputation of a majority of its decisions being overturned by the SCOTUS
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« Reply #24 on: February 07, 2017, 07:37:27 PM »
If I had to guess, I'd say this goes 2-1 in favor of the plaintiff.
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