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« Reply #2250 on: May 23, 2017, 07:12:35 PM »

My favorite thing about Karen Handel is when you explain who she is to people and you mention the Susan G. Komen thing and the response is usually "Oh wait that was her? F**k that lady."

What is this story?

Handel's Wikipedia page (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Karen_Handel) has a good summary:

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« Reply #2251 on: May 23, 2017, 07:14:20 PM »

Handel made an honorable and courageous decision at Komen, but right now we need Ossoff in congress to lessen the power of Trump.
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« Reply #2252 on: May 23, 2017, 07:26:11 PM »

Handel made an honorable and courageous decision at Komen, but right now we need Ossoff in congress to lessen the power of Trump.

Yet apparently not Quist, who would probably vote in almost exactly the same way on everything.
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« Reply #2253 on: May 23, 2017, 08:39:37 PM »

Handel made an honorable and courageous decision at Komen, but right now we need Ossoff in congress to lessen the power of Trump.

Yet apparently not Quist, who would probably vote in almost exactly the same way on everything.

I admit that not endorsing Quist is a decision I have questioned, but I just can't endorse someone who is open about voting for and liking Bernie.
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« Reply #2254 on: May 23, 2017, 09:44:39 PM »

I mean, I'm not very into Sanders but what has he even done that would warrant the people who say they like Sanders to get crapped on?
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« Reply #2255 on: May 23, 2017, 09:46:48 PM »

Sanders has done extensive work to help normalize Socialism in this country.
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« Reply #2256 on: May 23, 2017, 09:48:11 PM »

Sanders has done extensive work to help normalize Socialism in this country.

So like every other democracy on earth.
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« Reply #2257 on: May 23, 2017, 10:06:53 PM »

Sanders has done extensive work to help normalize Socialism in this country.

So like every other democracy on earth.

He does not like socialism, he does not like Bernie, he does not like Quist, you are not changing his mind.
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« Reply #2258 on: May 23, 2017, 10:32:23 PM »

Handel made an honorable and courageous decision at Komen, but right now we need Ossoff in congress to lessen the power of Trump.

Yet apparently not Quist, who would probably vote in almost exactly the same way on everything.

I admit that not endorsing Quist is a decision I have questioned, but I just can't endorse someone who is open about voting for and liking Bernie.

Bernie is a useless schmuck, but this a bad reason not to back Quist.
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« Reply #2259 on: May 23, 2017, 11:15:40 PM »

I have to say if Ossoff does win it is in no small part that Handel is doing nothing but fundraising an like Hillary is taking votes for granted
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« Reply #2260 on: May 23, 2017, 11:32:17 PM »

I have to say if Ossoff does win it is in no small part that Handel is doing nothing but fundraising an like Hillary is taking votes for granted

There's really not too much more to be done, aside from the occasional rally and GOTV work in the week or two before the election. Essentially every voter in the district has been contacted by both campaigns, some have been contacted multiple times.
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« Reply #2261 on: May 23, 2017, 11:38:20 PM »

I have to say if Ossoff does win it is in no small part that Handel is doing nothing but fundraising an like Hillary is taking votes for granted

There's really not too much more to be done, aside from the occasional rally and GOTV work in the week or two before the election. Essentially every voter in the district has been contacted by both campaigns, some have been contacted multiple times.
No that's what I mean Ossoff has been "touch me see me feel me" all over the place while Handel barley holds rallies
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« Reply #2262 on: May 24, 2017, 11:02:54 AM »

I have to say if Ossoff does win it is in no small part that Handel is doing nothing but fundraising an like Hillary is taking votes for granted

There's really not too much more to be done, aside from the occasional rally and GOTV work in the week or two before the election. Essentially every voter in the district has been contacted by both campaigns, some have been contacted multiple times.

Saying "some" voters have been contacted multiple times in the Georgia 6th is the political understatement of the year.
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« Reply #2263 on: May 24, 2017, 08:45:03 PM »

No that's what I mean Ossoff has been "touch me see me feel me" all over the place

As long as he doesn't take this literally....
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« Reply #2264 on: May 24, 2017, 08:45:53 PM »

No that's what I mean Ossoff has been "touch me see me feel me" all over the place

As long as he doesn't take this literally....

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« Reply #2265 on: May 24, 2017, 09:14:20 PM »

No that's what I mean Ossoff has been "touch me see me feel me" all over the place

As long as he doesn't take this literally....
Oh the jokes GG has given us
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« Reply #2266 on: May 25, 2017, 08:20:42 PM »

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« Reply #2267 on: May 25, 2017, 11:44:20 PM »

Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.
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« Reply #2268 on: May 26, 2017, 12:28:11 AM »
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Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.

I'd disagree that any of these races are "must win". They need to be seen as what they are--heavy D shifts in R areas, even if not winnable races, that could signal 10-15 point R seats could be up for grabs in 2018--a lesson that if the voters show up, and can make safe seats this close, then they can certainly swing some tilt or lean R seats. Treating them as anything else is a great way to spook Democrats into not showing up in 2018, seeing "sure thing" seats as being hopeless.
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« Reply #2269 on: May 26, 2017, 01:06:57 AM »

Oh God, not McDonald again. I'm getting 2016 flashbacks from this.

That being said, Ossoff should win 51-49 or so. This is not the same as MT.
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« Reply #2270 on: May 26, 2017, 01:38:45 AM »

Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.

I'd disagree that any of these races are "must win". They need to be seen as what they are--heavy D shifts in R areas, even if not winnable races, that could signal 10-15 point R seats could be up for grabs in 2018--a lesson that if the voters show up, and can make safe seats this close, then they can certainly swing some tilt or lean R seats. Treating them as anything else is a great way to spook Democrats into not showing up in 2018, seeing "sure thing" seats as being hopeless.

It will be very tough for dems to take the house without winning one of these special elections. GA-6 is their last chance.
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« Reply #2271 on: May 26, 2017, 02:11:07 AM »

Ossoff is a HP for sucking up all the resources.
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« Reply #2272 on: May 26, 2017, 02:13:40 AM »

Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.

I'd disagree that any of these races are "must win". They need to be seen as what they are--heavy D shifts in R areas, even if not winnable races, that could signal 10-15 point R seats could be up for grabs in 2018--a lesson that if the voters show up, and can make safe seats this close, then they can certainly swing some tilt or lean R seats. Treating them as anything else is a great way to spook Democrats into not showing up in 2018, seeing "sure thing" seats as being hopeless.

It will be very tough for dems to take the house without winning one of these special elections. GA-6 is their last chance.

If Ossoff narrowly loses the special, he could challenge Handel to a rematch in 2018, and win under the right circumstances.  No doubt that whoever wins will be a vulnerable incumbent then.
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« Reply #2273 on: May 26, 2017, 02:25:56 AM »

Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.

I'd disagree that any of these races are "must win". They need to be seen as what they are--heavy D shifts in R areas, even if not winnable races, that could signal 10-15 point R seats could be up for grabs in 2018--a lesson that if the voters show up, and can make safe seats this close, then they can certainly swing some tilt or lean R seats. Treating them as anything else is a great way to spook Democrats into not showing up in 2018, seeing "sure thing" seats as being hopeless.

Democrats have to compete everywhere. Obama said he won states like Iowa because lost by lesser margins in rural areas which allowed him to run the numbers in urban ares.

There is 14-15% swing in Montana from the Presidential election. If Democrats compete on Montana then it will be in play in the long term. Baby boomer population is falling & Millennial population is increasing big.

If the Democrats can get Schweitzer to run, Montana 2020 Senate is in the bag. That guy won by 33% in 2008 when Obama lost Montana !
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« Reply #2274 on: May 26, 2017, 06:20:19 AM »

It will be very tough for dems to take the house without winning one of these special elections.

I don't see the logic there. With the swings we've already seen in KS-4 and MT-AL, Democrats are projected to take the House with seats to spare in 2018, especially as they line up better candidates than Quist.

It would be a disappointment, and currently unexpected, if we lose GA-6 in June given that unlike Montana that district is relatively sour on Trump. But there's no such thing as a special election 16 months before being a "last chance" to determine a midterm victory!
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