GA-6 Special election discussion thread

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

To be honest, probably not. But don't rule it out yet. And don't give up the damn fight till the results are finalized.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

It will be Ossoff vs Handel. Handel will win the runoff easily.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

How many from Dekalb reporting?

I think nyt might have it as 67% in. That's real bad if you are rooting for Ossoff.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

He's got only one route left. Do fantastic in what is left of DeKalb, and try to keep the margins down in Cobb and Fulton which will obviously continue dropping in total vote percentage for him.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

We are getting slammed in Cobb.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

The new SoS interface is sucking at showing me county-by-county or precinct-by-precinct totals. How much vote from Fulton is actually in?

16% in for Fulton.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Well this sucks if you are a Democrat...

Why? Surely you weren't expecting an outright win tonight?

It was our best chance. Handel will smash him to bits 1v1.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Well Dekalb is 95% in. Oh well.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

He is going to dive below the 50% threshold anytime now.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Conservatrash gonna be trash.

The moderators really don't moderate around here, do they?

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Let's enjoy topping fifty for the next few moments before the rest of cobb and fulton slams in.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Cobb at 96% now and Ossoff at 50.4%

meaning, ossoff HAS improved 1.5 points compared to clinton.

trump/clinton difference was about 1 point, eh?

and ? the goal is not to beat trump, the goal is to get 50%+

He has a point, and I doubt we are keeping it for much longer.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

We need to focus on more practical gains instead of squandering many resources going on random goose chases in such red turf. Let's focus on wins we actually have a fighting chance of pulling off victories such as districts in socal, florida, virginia, texas, nebraska 2nd, iowa, and arizona just to name a few. It's time for us to get practical here. Our republican friends are right, we are blowing resources on lost causes, when we don't need to be doing that, instead we could be doing better things.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Ossoff statement on results:

That's pretty ironic... it's time for us to abandon him. This is now officially a lost cause. His best, and possibly only shot was tonight, and he blew it. I wish him all the best for june, but handel will "man-handel" him pretty badly.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

The attack ad on selling his documentaries to al jazeera was just propaganda bullbleep, but I will have to give credit to the republicans on the fact that Mr. Ossoff does not even live in the district he is running for, not to mention getting most all his money from outside the state, it is clear to me that his loyalties do not lie with the 6th district. He is just trying to ride a blue wave into office. Honestly he still has my support, since he was better than the 17 others, (well I did not look at the other dems that much since they were not viable) but compared with other practical options, he was the best one. And between Handel and him, I still support him. He is the lesser of all buffoons, but none the less, I am not a big fan of his.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

As much as I would like to see Ossoff win over Handel, she will smash him with a margin of victory in the lower double digits.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

So for people saying Ossoff loses support in the runoff, are you saying some of his voters will switch to Handel or that his voters won't all turn up whereas Republicans will have more consistent turnout and all vote for her?

he probably won't lose support, and I am undecided if his turnout rate will decrease, though I doubt it will increase, but I think Handel will form a GOP coalition that will have a high turnout and smack Ossoff silly. Handel is fairly moderate and regular old school party centric GOP member, which works well in suburban areas, and she is a strong female figure that could help garner and turnout moderate/very center barely right, middle aged suburban house wives. She is the perfect candidate for the district, and has already gotten the support from some of her defeated GOP opponents. She will stitch together a coalition, and they will turn out big on election day in june, especially after seeing how close Ossoff did. I don't see Ossoff turning out anymore, since I feel like his enthusiasm cap has reached its limit, and is fizzling down. He blew his chance tonight, while Handel over-performed.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

As much as I would like to see Ossoff win over Handel, she will smash him with a margin of victory in the lower double digits.

One thing I have to give to people on the right is that, when the outcome of a primary or GE doesn't go perfectly for them, they usually suck it up and live to fight another day.  They don't whine, threaten to stay home, and/or wet their beds.  Just look at Breitbart comments if you don't believe me; hardly anyone is complaining about the fact that Handel won, even though she was the "establishment" candidate in the field.  If you want to give up without even putting up a fight, that's your prerogative, but it only makes the Republicans' goal of cementing their rule that much easier.  Quitters never win.

You gotta wisely pick which battles are worth fighting, and this is no longer one of them.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Campaigns always release internal polls for a reason. Ossoff+1 sends the perfect message to potential activists/donors: "WOW GUYS WE ARE IN THE LEAD THIS IS SO AWESOME BUT JESUS LOOK HOW CLOSE IT IS SO Y'ALL BETTER SEND US SOME CASH MONEY RIGHT THE HELL NOW"

It hits the perfect spot, building optimism without anyone getting complacent

He's received enough money. In fact a little too much, any more would just be ridiculous... We cannot empty our coffers on one special congressional election in a red district. It's time to fund Montana at large, and save up for 2018.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

He's received enough money. In fact a little too much, any more would just be ridiculous... We cannot empty our coffers on one special congressional election in a red district. It's time to fund Montana at large, and save up for 2018.

I don't have exact numbers but at least up until the middle of April, most of Ossoff's funding came from small donors. Those are generally not the kind of donors you can deplete easily. 2018 is still a ways away, and I doubt there will be any money issues at that point.

Best to start saving up early, we need everything we can get in order to have a fighting chance. Plus, MONTANA! Ossoff's average donation was some in the $40s, so yeah. He has enough money and backing. Best of luck to him, but it's time to start using resources to prep for other battles.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Apparently, Handel's going to free the black slaves from the Democrats

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/kfile-karen-handel-husband-tweet/index.html

The husband of Republican congressional candidate Karen Handel shared an image on his Twitter timeline Tuesday that urged voters to support his wife in order to "free the black slaves from the Democratic plantation."

What the hell was he thinking?

Did he really want his wife to lose? Did he want to discourage Black people from voting R? I assume so.

There is radio bit similar to this on Kiss 104.1 but doesn't specify a candidate. 

Ok, this is absolutely egregious. Is everyone sure this is real, or did snopes pull a prank on us? This is low even for the GOP...

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Yep, it's real. Hopefully we are able to turn this into a situation like Claire McCaskill and Todd Akin "legitimate rape" situation. She was not expected to win or either be in a tight battleground race, but this little October surprise helped her a ton. Hopefully the same can be done here, because Ms. Handel has given us a golden ticket and a rallying cry, let's use it. There are still a few points left of undecideds, let's try to sway them aboard.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Apparently, Handel's going to free the black slaves from the Democrats

http://www.cnn.com/2017/05/02/politics/kfile-karen-handel-husband-tweet/index.html

The husband of Republican congressional candidate Karen Handel shared an image on his Twitter timeline Tuesday that urged voters to support his wife in order to "free the black slaves from the Democratic plantation."

What the hell was he thinking?

Did he really want his wife to lose? Did he want to discourage Black people from voting R? I assume so.

There is radio bit similar to this on Kiss 104.1 but doesn't specify a candidate. 

Ok, this is absolutely egregious. Is everyone sure this is real, or did snopes pull a prank on us? This is low even for the GOP...

Sorry to burst your bubble, but it is real. And Snopes doesn't pull pranks, they never have and that site has nothing to do with this.

How the heck would this burst my bubble? In case you didn't notice, I'm a democrat, this makes me ecstatic!

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Handel is the same horrible candidate she's always been.

Exactly. Even the "moderates" in the GOP are full of people like her, it's just that trumpians overshadow them, bu we cannot allow ourselves to forget that we were at odds with the GOP long beforw Trump, and we cannot forget that even the base of the party is not cool.

[Co-Chair Bagel23]

Get your "Reelect Jon Ossoff in 2018" signs ready, folks.

Arrogance at its finest.