GA-6 Special election discussion thread

[Hammy]

I called this, just as I called the Presidential race. Greed and bigotry reign supreme in this nation, and it's only going to get worse and as they continue to control the narrative. In 20 years, "liberal" and "progressive" will be as poisonous as "Communist".

The pendulum swings back and forth. And keep in mind with the presidential race that Trump's win doesn't represent a swing back to the Republicans but bad candidates and a glitch in the system (EV/PV split). While I think this race was over before it began (as withanytime you have a runoff in an R state/district) I think you need to take a long break from politics and chill out for awhile.

[Hammy]

Its funny thinking of all the outside money and celebrity money that is getting flushed down the toilet.

Republicans spent almost 2x more than Republicans here.

Dems got 8 mil (95% out of district) and every possible liberla hollywood actor/actress to descend on the district and are barely improving from the general election.

Could still be a good sign if a house race in an off-year have the Dems exceeded the GE %, given how the Dems usually don't show up to polls for non-presidential races.

[Hammy]

If Dem candidates get more votes than total Repub candidates, wouldn't the Dem be favored in a runoff?

If Ossoff comes in under 50%, more than likely (given how small the other D candidates are getting) the GOP will have exceeded 50% when all added up--and the Democrats don't seem to like showing up to the polls for runoff elections.

[Hammy]

Democrats are probably going to win back congress at this rate.

Lol, they couldnt even win a left of center district in this election with $8 million!

And that is before fresh Gerrymandering.

The vote is swinging D from 2016--not sure how you see this as a "left of center" district.

[Hammy]

Democrats are probably going to win back congress at this rate.

Lol, they couldnt even win a left of center district in this election with $8 million!

And that is before fresh Gerrymandering.

The vote is swinging D from 2016--not sure how you see this as a "left of center" district.

2016 Presidential margins have this district as roughly district 214, ordered from left to right. Trump won the median district by 3.4 points.

There's always a difference in House vs President, you can't compare them. The office that is being voted on is ten points to the left of 2016 and no amount of fact manipulation can change that.

[Hammy]

Decision Desk HQ @DecisionDeskHQ
One card out of hundreds created an error. They need to manually go through them and re-upload everything in #Fulton #GA06


Good night everyone

Is that why the CNN headline count hasn't updated in over an hour?

[Hammy]

Given the amount of butthurtness of the Dem base, they won't believe the Fulton result which will put Ossoff way under 50... These computer problems will again led to Russia nonsense. But ok, more to joke for us.

Who said that

Go to twitter, the amount of sh**t coming from their accounts is frightening...

I find it interesting that almost none of them actually live in GA06 either.

Why? Is this your first time on the internet?

No, just pointing out the facts. Hollyweirdos and Kalifornia fruitcakes desperately poured millions into this seat because they can't get over Hillary! losing.

Remember when the Tea Party from various states poured tens of millions of out of state money into house and senate and gubernatorial races because they couldn't stand that Obama was president? Quit acting like your side has some moral high ground because whoever isn't in power is going to do this.

[Hammy]

Trump tweets:

Donald J. Trump‏ @realDonaldTrump
Despite major outside money, FAKE media support and eleven Republican candidates, BIG "R" win with runoff in Georgia. Glad to be of help!

wut

He's in denial.

[Hammy]

Wow. As of this moment, Ossoff and the top 5 Republicans combined have exactly the same number of votes at 88,562 each.

Yes, Republicans will end up with more votes.



#Winning.

What a change from just a few months ago's House race when this went R+23.

[Hammy]

A loss is a loss. More proof that the Democrats need to move to the center. This isn't Kenosha. A DLC Democrat like Zell Miller might've had a chance here.

Moving closer to the center will further suppress turnout of progressives--which is literally why Donald Trump is president in the first place.

[Hammy]

Why isn't anyone here thinking this could've been a strategic move on Sanders part? I live in Georgia near the district so I get to see all the ads (despite living outside of it) and most of the attack ads on Ossoff are already calling him too liberal and a rubber-stamp Democrat as it is--a Sanders endorsement will just add fuel to the attacks. This isn't a national race but a local one and the voting habits need to be taken into consideration.

[Hammy]

What you are seeing here, ladies and gentlemen, is Georgia beginning the transition to becoming a blue (Atlas red) state.

This bodes well for the rest of the South.

I don't see it happening as quickly as some here think. Unlike Florida, North Carolina, and Virginia, Georgia still has quite a bit more R+40 rural space that Atlanta would have to offset, rather than several concentrated and growing urban centers as the other three states have.

[Hammy]

On Mississippi on the map above, the state is both the poorest and most rural state in the Deep South, and the white voters could be demographically similar to West Virginia than surrounding states, so the Dem trend (if one happens) would be much slower than surrounding states.

[Hammy]

Handel needs to give Trump supporters a reason to not stay home, but at the same time she's giving Republicans who hate Trump more of a reason to stay home or vote for Ossoff.

Don't count on this happening--we thought the exact same would happen with the presidential election, and look where we're at instead. Republicans will show up regardless.

[Hammy]

Handel needs to give Trump supporters a reason to not stay home, but at the same time she's giving Republicans who hate Trump more of a reason to stay home or vote for Ossoff.

Don't count on this happening--we thought the exact same would happen with the presidential election, and look where we're at instead. Republicans will show up regardless.

Not every single race is going to mirror the presidential election. The point is that Handel coming out in support of things that are unpopular will do nothing to help her with undecided voters

Oh, I don't by any stretch think this will mirror the presidential election--more realistically it'll mirror the 2014 midterms because Dem turnout is even lower in races where the president isn't on the ballot.

[Hammy]

This race is ridiculous, whoever wins is going to be there forever with the money they're getting from this.

But they're spending all the money though.

Regardless of who wins, it would be utterly ironic if they lost in 2018.

[Hammy]

Too many here seem far too confident that Ossoff will win--is there any polling to indicate it won't simply be a repeat (total party %) of the runoff, give or take a point?

[Hammy]

Well, with the MT result, this race is now a must-win for dems, as they're not going to win SC-5 or UT-3.

I'd disagree that any of these races are "must win". They need to be seen as what they are--heavy D shifts in R areas, even if not winnable races, that could signal 10-15 point R seats could be up for grabs in 2018--a lesson that if the voters show up, and can make safe seats this close, then they can certainly swing some tilt or lean R seats. Treating them as anything else is a great way to spook Democrats into not showing up in 2018, seeing "sure thing" seats as being hopeless.

[Hammy]

What do y'all make of this?

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It means Republicans weren't interested in the first round, but got spooked by how close it was and probably help Handel win by 7-8 points.

[Hammy]

What do y'all make of this?

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It means Republicans weren't interested in the first round, but got spooked by how close it was and probably help Handel win by 7-8 points.

Well, before you start screaming Armageddon, we don't know how big that subsample even is

I've been saying from day one that Ossoff isn't going to win, or even receive more than he did in the first round. Georgia's runoff elections are fairly predictable.

[Hammy]

Karen Handel is so obnoxious. I think I've heard Nancy Pelosi's name at least a dozen times.

And could she stop using "liberal" as an insult. You are supposed to represent all your voters lady. Name calling and divisiveness is not very becoming despite who the President is.

Given how the district voted, it sounds like she's representing the will of of the voters just fine and she probably knows this.

Edit: wow, this thread made it to 100 pages.

[Hammy]

Well, you can bet that Republicans are not going to run Handel against Ossoff again next year if he wins the runoff.

Which is probably good for Ossoff as IIRC the other primary candidates were particularly whackadoodle extreme, and Handel was considered the "moderate electable" one.

Whoever thought Handel was electable clearly knew nothing about her.

Just remember, Trump wasn't supposed to be electable either.

[Hammy]

Having had to sit through the ads (which is especially irritating since I'm not even in that district) I just have to point out the GOP ads during the first round had nothing but negative to say about Handel, about how she wasted tax dollars, used every office as nothing but a springboard for her next office, etc, and now they're heaping praise on her like she's some party messiah, all while calling Ossoff a liar while making some of the same points as the first round GOP ads.

[Hammy]

In less time than this stupid election has been dragging on, the UK Labour party with less money than Ossoff spent went from 20 points behind to losing by 2 and now ahead.

To be fair, the amount of money in politics is actually regulated there via heavy restrictions on political advertising.