GA-6 Special election discussion thread

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No. They will lose again!

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Redistricting makes a lot of sense here.

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It should be noted that this iteration of GA-06 is entirely different than the version Gingrich represented in the 1990s. Not even any overlap whatsoever.

Well, yes. The Democrat party in Georgia passed a ruthless gerrymander in 1991 designed to target Mr. Gingrich.

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It should be noted that this iteration of GA-06 is entirely different than the version Gingrich represented in the 1990s. Not even any overlap whatsoever.

Well, yes. The Democrat party in Georgia passed a ruthless gerrymander in 1991 designed to target Mr. Gingrich.

Oh you mean that basically Republican gerrymander that packed all of the state's black voters into three districts and allowed Republicans to pick up all of the surrounding districts by 1995?

No, I don't mean that at all. They did not intend that in 1991.

What you describe is (perhaps) failure of intellect, not failure of intent.

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It should be noted that this iteration of GA-06 is entirely different than the version Gingrich represented in the 1990s. Not even any overlap whatsoever.

Well, yes. The Democrat party in Georgia passed a ruthless gerrymander in 1991 designed to target Mr. Gingrich.

The map they passed was only used in 92 and 94,  it was struck down by the courts because of packing of African Americans.   It wasn't about taking out Gingrich,  it was made to minimize Black representation.

Oh really? That was the reported theory at the time.


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The 1991 map was horrible because of the way it was made. After receiving the stringent demands from the DOJ, GA Speaker Tom Murphy's attitude was basically, "I don't care who draws the map or what it looks like, as long as it'll pass preclearance and will give me a Representative who's not Newt Gingrich." The map that eventually passed was put forward by a group of Republicans, IIRC, who designed the VRA districts with such a strong minority presence so that it'd get the support of African American legislators.

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Even if Ossoff loses is it really a victory for Republicans? Handel or Gray can easily be Comstock or Issa in a couple of cycles.

Of course not. You are forgetting that there will be skilled Gerrymandering.

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Great poll!

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Trump makes a robo call:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/854110507560783873/photo/1

Has someone told him he is not that liked in this district?

It's strange to claim that someone is, uh, not liked, in a district in which he gained a plurality of the vote.

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Trump makes a robo call:

https://mobile.twitter.com/Phil_Mattingly/status/854110507560783873/photo/1

Has someone told him he is not that liked in this district?

It's strange to claim that someone is, uh, not liked, in a district in which he gained a plurality of the vote.

Was Obama liked in, uh, Indiana?

At one point in time, sure. At the time you speak of the Democrat party was fairly popular in Indiana and won a majority of the 9 seats in the House of Representatives.

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Big Sack Fumble for Matt Ryan and Ossoff!

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When (if) progressives ever take power, we need to tax areas like this out of existence.

We should probably de-gerrymander this district first...

The funny part of this is that it was your party that put Georgia's 6th district in the Northern Suburbs of Atlanta in the first place.

For the record, the GOP actually weakened this district by 3 points in the 2011 redistricting.

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What a great Tom Brady style comeback. Trump wins again.

Pretty sure Trump's the reason this district is even close...

A reason, perhaps. Not the reason. A fractured field and a massive money advantage from out of state donors count for something.

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What a great Tom Brady style comeback. Trump wins again.

Actually, Trump's chosen one got a little-league 9%. Pretty sure that counts as a loss for him.

Did you read his twitter? A runoff is a win.

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Democrats are probably going to win back congress at this rate.

Lol, they couldnt even win a left of center district in this election with $8 million!

And that is before fresh Gerrymandering.

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Democrats are probably going to win back congress at this rate.

Lol, they couldnt even win a left of center district in this election with $8 million!

And that is before fresh Gerrymandering.

The vote is swinging D from 2016--not sure how you see this as a "left of center" district.

2016 Presidential margins have this district as roughly district 214, ordered from left to right. Trump won the median district by 3.4 points.

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Democrats are probably going to win back congress at this rate.

Lol, they couldnt even win a left of center district in this election with $8 million!

And that is before fresh Gerrymandering.

I realize thinking is not your strong point but...

1). this is a heavily Republican district

2). gerrymandering takes place AFTER 2020... not before 2018 ()

3). if Democrats do well in 2018 the lines are going to be gerrymandered in DEMOCRATS favour, so good luck in the midterms with your President at <40% approval!

Who gave you the idea that the bolded was true?

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2016 election results and the US constitution?

You do realize that the Supreme Court allowed states to redistrict as they see fit in LULAC v Perry?

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2016 election results and the US constitution?

You do realize that the Supreme Court allowed states to redistrict as they see fit in LULAC v Perry?

You do realize that redistricting will be done after 2020 regardless, right?

Yes. I concur with your position that Democrats, if they win some elections in Georgia, will gerrymander the districts. They did so before in a ruthless fashion. For instance, the Democrats gerrymandered legislative districts in Georgia after the 2000 census such that some Republican held districts had 9.9% more persons than the Democrat held districts.

But that theory requires the Democrats to win an election.

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Given the amount of butthurtness of the Dem base, they won't believe the Fulton result which will put Ossoff way under 50... These computer problems will again led to Russia nonsense. But ok, more to joke for us.

All in all, the Dems and their media can spin  as long as they want, losing a Trump +1  District with approximately 6 to 8 points means loses in the House. No way to be afraid of.

Resistance losers are already claiming Russian interference on twitter.

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Wow. As of this moment, Ossoff and the top 5 Republicans combined have exactly the same number of votes at 88,562 each.

Yes, Republicans will end up with more votes.



#Winning.

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This seems non-ambiguous. Runoffs are clearly defined as being applicable to the 30 days or less deadline requirement. I don't get why Georgia would even waste money on defending that.

Oh. Nevermind.

The argument which the state regularly makes is that a runoff is not a separate election but an "extension" of a general election. Bit of strained logic, but there you are.

Of course the runoff is a continuation of the prior election. For one thing, new candidates and new parties cannot enter.

This is of course not a new thing, and it even dates back to when the Democrat party actually won something in Georgia. Ask Thurbert Baker. The voter registration deadline for Georgia's December 2008 Senate runoff was the same as the 2008 general election.

The real reason is that leftists are trying to steal the election with out of district voters.

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Handel is soaring in the polls!

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The shooting of Scalise is leading to a Handel surge.

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But seriously if Ossoff does lose what do dems do? He did everything right while Handel did so much wrong yet reps fell in line

He does not even live in the district.

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Many voters are rallying to Handel due to the shooting of Congressman Scalise.


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