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« Reply #50 on: February 08, 2017, 10:34:10 AM »

This rule should absolutely not apply when a Senator is a Nominee to an office (cabinet, judge, etc)... Otherwise Senator-Nominees are held to a lower level of scrutiny.
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« Reply #51 on: February 08, 2017, 10:39:08 AM »

Udall, Booker, and a few others have since quoted the letter... without repercussions.
She's a woman.  What more would you expect from him.
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« Reply #52 on: February 08, 2017, 10:59:04 AM »

Can anyone name a time that Harry Reid invoked this rule against a Republican?
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« Reply #53 on: February 08, 2017, 12:36:38 PM »

Is there any precedent for the rule being used in the way it was used? (i.e. to regulate debate of the nomination of a U.S. Senator to another position)

In the past it's been used mainly to halt intemperate words between Senators. It was passed after two South Carolina Senators got into a fistfight on the Senate floor back at the start of the 20th century.
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« Reply #54 on: February 08, 2017, 12:45:19 PM »

Roll Eyes because if she had done this while  reading a white male's words (like say Noam Chomsky or Karl Marx or john Dewey) clearly she would not have been silenced. Race baiting is gross when Democrats do it too.

She probably would have still been silenced, true, but it's hard to deny that this looks bad, given the context.
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« Reply #55 on: February 08, 2017, 12:58:45 PM »

That turtle without a shell is possibly the worst person in the Senate (ignoring Cruz who is just evil) !
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« Reply #56 on: February 08, 2017, 01:12:54 PM »

The US Congress is beginning to operate much like the Volkskammer of the old and unlamented DDR -- there is a recognized minority, but it is powerless. The majority party operates in predictable lockstep, and the recognized minor parties say their pieces in such allotted time as they have and expect to lose every time.

Except that it isn't entertaining, the Republicans are the Harlem Globetrotters and the Democrats are the Washington Generals.

I'm looking forward to see images analogous to this in America



After four years of Donald Trump that will feel like forty...
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« Reply #57 on: February 08, 2017, 02:26:37 PM »
« Edited: February 08, 2017, 02:28:51 PM by hermit »

Just put this incident on the list, because have you heard what's coming?

http://www.wisn.com/article/a-day-without-a-woman-womens-march-organizers-plan-general-strike/8683454

http://www.sheknows.com/living/articles/1131859/a-full-on-womens-strike-is-coming-and-people-are-freaking-out

http://www.usatoday.com/videos/news/nation/2017/02/07/first-women's-march-now-women's-strike-coming-soon/97583354/

The people who organized the recent woman's march are now organizing "A Day Without a Woman" strike.

"The will of the people will stand."

Can't wait to see this!

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« Reply #58 on: February 08, 2017, 02:56:59 PM »

Sanders & other Dems read the full letter & no1 dares to silence them.

Why did the GOP pick on Warren?
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« Reply #59 on: February 08, 2017, 03:10:12 PM »


Evidently Warren was blasting Sessions before she read the letter. I read somewhere that McConnell was blasting her for blasting Sessions first, before the letter. Whatever.
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« Reply #60 on: February 08, 2017, 03:25:24 PM »

The real explanation is that there's something about Elizabeth Warren that Republicans can't stand.

Democrats see her as very charismatic, personable, and inspirational.

Republicans always complain about how she's the opposite of charismatic and how they just hate her very voice and how she says things in addition to what she says.
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« Reply #61 on: February 08, 2017, 03:51:59 PM »

They should stop televising the senate, it'll stop the silly grandstanding

Any notion of a decrease in transparency is completely objectionable and would serve only to benefit shady interests and politicians who'd prefer their work hidden from public view. Thus, I imagine it'd be an enormous boon for Republicans.

In a perfect world it's transparency, sadly we don't live in that world. There is too much tv camera grandstanding for senators, representatives, even the press to get their sound bites, it's actually become worse for government with all the chum these people throw for attention
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« Reply #62 on: February 08, 2017, 03:58:53 PM »

This has nothing to do with gender or race.  It has to do with partisanism.
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« Reply #63 on: February 08, 2017, 04:19:35 PM »

The real explanation is that there's something about Elizabeth Warren that Republicans can't stand.

Democrats see her as very charismatic, personable, and inspirational.

Republicans always complain about how she's the opposite of charismatic and how they just hate her very voice and how she says things in addition to what she says.

They'd say that about George Washington, Abraham Lincoln, and Jesus if they had a (D) after their names. They are totally and completely intellectually and morally bankrupt.
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« Reply #64 on: February 08, 2017, 07:12:06 PM »

I heard this could be a plot to advance Warren's chances for the 2020 nomination because the Republicans view her as a weak candidate. Was that on this thread?
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« Reply #65 on: February 08, 2017, 09:09:27 PM »


I think it's partisan stuff going on and also sexism. Warren is very aggressive and she doesn't put sugar on her words. And I don't think many people (mostly males) can stand that. It's like with Hillary, she was always too loud, or too shrill, or she laughed the wrong way, or wore the wrong thing....females get harsher treatment than their male counterparts and that's that. Especially if they are aggressive or seeking power...it's so unlady-like.

But the GOP will not be able to silence Warren indefinitely and that will be their problem. Let's see how this plays out when the women who marched a couple of weeks ago go on strike, which is the next thing planned. A day without a woman. Watch for it.

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« Reply #66 on: February 08, 2017, 09:14:57 PM »

I heard this could be a plot to advance Warren's chances for the 2020 nomination because the Republicans view her as a weak candidate. Was that on this thread?

There was that same line of argumentation with Bernie.  I'd gleefully invite them to play with fire.
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« Reply #67 on: February 08, 2017, 09:21:05 PM »

Let's see how this plays out when the women who marched a couple of weeks ago go on strike, which is the next thing planned. A day without a woman. Watch for it.

Just a day without one?  That's child's play for most of the posters on this forum.
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« Reply #68 on: February 09, 2017, 03:28:00 AM »

Let's see how this plays out when the women who marched a couple of weeks ago go on strike, which is the next thing planned. A day without a woman. Watch for it.

Just a day without one?  That's child's play for most of the posters on this forum.


Look at what a one-day strike by females in Iceland did in 1975:

https://libcom.org/history/iceland-women%E2%80%99s-strike-1975



"On October 24, 90% of women in Iceland, in both urban and rural communities, did not go to their paid jobs or do housework or childcare at home.

As a result, many industries shut down for the day."





"A year after the strike, in 1976, Iceland formed the Gender Equality Council and passed the Gender Equality Act, which outlawed gender discrimination in workplaces and schools.

In 1980, Iceland elected its first female president, Vigdis Finnbogadottir, who held office for four terms, until 1996....

Today Iceland has the highest level of gender equality in the world, with the highest level of women’s participation in the labour market, with heavily subsidised childcare and three months’ paid parental leave to each parent."



What difference a day makes.... Wink

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« Reply #69 on: February 09, 2017, 04:21:17 AM »

Lol did he just hand her a great slogan for 2020 on a silver plate?
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« Reply #70 on: February 09, 2017, 04:58:45 AM »

The entire point is to build up the next George McGovern.
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« Reply #71 on: February 09, 2017, 07:12:52 AM »

The entire point is to build up the next George McGovern.
As opposed to the George Wallace we have in office now? (I apologize in advance to Gov. Wallace for comparing him to the Groppenfuehrer.
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« Reply #72 on: February 09, 2017, 10:08:32 AM »

Let's see how this plays out when the women who marched a couple of weeks ago go on strike, which is the next thing planned. A day without a woman. Watch for it.

Just a day without one?  That's child's play for most of the posters on this forum.


Look at what a one-day strike by females in Iceland did in 1975:

https://libcom.org/history/iceland-women%E2%80%99s-strike-1975


It sounds like my joke may have flown over your head.  Tongue
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« Reply #73 on: February 09, 2017, 10:42:46 AM »

The real explanation is that there's something about Elizabeth Warren that Republicans can't stand.

Democrats see her as very charismatic, personable, and inspirational.

Republicans always complain about how she's the opposite of charismatic and how they just hate her very voice and how she says things in addition to what she says.

I think it's pretty obvious there were sexist connotations here despite the fact that it was partisan maneuvering.  And part of it probably was meant as some form of retaliation for the women's march.  Telling women and minorities to shut up and "take their seat" is practically a national sport in this country and that's the way it's always been.  You don't have to be an 'SJW' or a snowflake or whatever to acknowledge that fact.

Elizabeth Warren is too nasty and Coretta Scott King was too uppity.  That's a dangerous combination for some people.
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« Reply #74 on: February 09, 2017, 10:54:22 AM »

The entire point is to build up the next George McGovern.
As opposed to the George Wallace we have in office now? (I apologize in advance to Gov. Wallace for comparing him to the Groppenfuehrer.

Wallace won more states than McGovern. So sure, run with that.

I admire Mitch McConnell's tactical mastery. He stole a Supreme Court seat!
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