Abortion legality by state
       |           

Welcome, Guest. Please login or register.
Did you miss your activation email?
April 24, 2024, 02:17:53 PM
News: Election Simulator 2.0 Released. Senate/Gubernatorial maps, proportional electoral votes, and more - Read more

  Talk Elections
  Other Elections - Analysis and Discussion
  Gubernatorial/State Elections (Moderators: Brittain33, GeorgiaModerate, Gass3268, Virginiá, Gracile)
  Abortion legality by state
« previous next »
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]
Author Topic: Abortion legality by state  (Read 7383 times)
Ferguson97
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 28,109
United States


P P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #75 on: April 09, 2024, 12:29:26 PM »

Logged
ajc0918
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,912
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #76 on: April 09, 2024, 12:33:27 PM »

Arizona: Tossup --> Lean DEM
Logged
CityofSinners
Rookie
**
Posts: 207


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #77 on: April 09, 2024, 12:33:59 PM »

This ruling makes sure that the 2024 ballot measure legalizing abortion will easily pass. Rather pyrrhic victory for the pro-life side.
Logged
Del Tachi
Republican95
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 17,862
United States


Political Matrix
E: 0.52, S: 1.46

P P P

Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #78 on: April 09, 2024, 02:15:42 PM »

Yes, Arizona has to follow the laws that are on their books.
Logged
xavier110
Sr. Member
****
Posts: 2,540
United States
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #79 on: April 09, 2024, 02:45:38 PM »

Yes, Arizona has to follow the laws that are on their books.

Nothing in the 15-week ban suggests it’s dependent on Roe’s enforceability however. That’s more or less what this case hinges on, and I’m surprised four justices reached that conclusion: a fairly specious and politically disastrous one… most of the AZ politicos were surprised by this decision. Vice CJ Timmer’s dissent is solid.
Logged
Dr Oz Lost Party!
PittsburghSteel
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 14,994
United States


P P
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #80 on: April 09, 2024, 02:59:39 PM »

Thank God Amadeh lost. Could you imagine if those 281 voters didn't show up on Election Day?
Logged
Skill and Chance
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,675
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #81 on: April 09, 2024, 03:10:46 PM »

Yes, Arizona has to follow the laws that are on their books.

Nothing in the 15-week ban suggests it’s dependent on Roe’s enforceability however. That’s more or less what this case hinges on, and I’m surprised four justices reached that conclusion: a fairly specious and politically disastrous one… most of the AZ politicos were surprised by this decision. Vice CJ Timmer’s dissent is solid.

My understanding is that when two laws appear to conflict with each other, judges are taught to defer to the older law, because the legislature that passed the newer law could have explicitly repealed the older one, but chose not to?
Logged
100% pro-life no matter what
ExtremeRepublican
Moderators
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 11,725


Political Matrix
E: 7.35, S: 5.57


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #82 on: April 09, 2024, 04:02:47 PM »

Kari Lake opposes pro-life laws in Arizona.  She's parroting the anti-life talking points that Trump gave permission to believe.

Logged
Skill and Chance
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,675
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #83 on: April 09, 2024, 05:21:16 PM »

Kari Lake opposes pro-life laws in Arizona.  She's parroting the anti-life talking points that Trump gave permission to believe.



Look, you can be as pro-life as you want to be, but this law isn't likely to go over in a swing state.  There is such a thing as pushing so hard, so fast on this that the median state position ends up more pro-choice than Roe.
Logged
Nyvin
Junior Chimp
*****
Posts: 7,652
United States


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #84 on: April 09, 2024, 07:28:00 PM »

I think the AZ Supreme Court just handed the state legislature to Democrats.
Logged
The Mikado
Moderators
Atlas Star
*****
Posts: 21,765


Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #85 on: April 09, 2024, 11:01:03 PM »


Look, you can be as pro-life as you want to be, but this law isn't likely to go over in a swing state.  There is such a thing as pushing so hard, so fast on this that the median state position ends up more pro-choice than Roe.

Extreme Republican is behaving exactly how you'd expect someone to behave who actually does think that fetuses and embryos are morally equivalent to born humans.

The fact that more GOP types don't share his reaction says that most of them don't really believe that in their heart of hearts.
Logged
Skill and Chance
Atlas Icon
*****
Posts: 12,675
Show only this user's posts in this thread
« Reply #86 on: April 10, 2024, 07:33:53 AM »


Look, you can be as pro-life as you want to be, but this law isn't likely to go over in a swing state.  There is such a thing as pushing so hard, so fast on this that the median state position ends up more pro-choice than Roe.

Extreme Republican is behaving exactly how you'd expect someone to behave who actually does think that fetuses and embryos are morally equivalent to born humans.

The fact that more GOP types don't share his reaction says that most of them don't really believe that in their heart of hearts.

You can believe it has enough moral worth that abortion should be legally discouraged under most circumstances (ideally used only in self-defense) without believing has exactly the same value as a born child.  For example, we rightfully have laws against animal abuse.
Logged
Pages: 1 2 3 [4]  
« previous next »
Jump to:  


Login with username, password and session length

Terms of Service - DMCA Agent and Policy - Privacy Policy and Cookies

Powered by SMF 1.1.21 | SMF © 2015, Simple Machines

Page created in 0.035 seconds with 11 queries.