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« on: February 10, 2017, 09:46:08 PM »

The United Nations:


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The world's forum, and a place which I hope will see a lot of debate and roleplaying from our esteemed player base. The United Nations will serve as a place for you to issue statements and hold debate over relevant issues of the work, and turn that into more serious action by mercy of resolutions. All players can participate, but for a select few there's the relevant advantage of belonging to the UN Security Council:

UN Security Council: The UK, China, France, the US and Russia are all permanent members, plus 10 temporary members with two-year periods, 5 elected each year. The current composition is:

-Permanent: UK, US, Russia, France, China
-2016 Intake: Egypt, Senegal, Japan, Uruguay, Ukraine
-2017 Intake: Ethiopia, Kazakhstan, Bolivia, Sweden, Italy (for 2017), Netherlands (for 2018)

I simulate most NPC countries here, but if a country is a particularly strong or reliable ally of one of the players I can grant that player the vote of said country. Anyway, the advantage of being in this club is that you can present Security Council Resolutions, which are binding if approved by 9 out of 15 members and not vetoed by the permanent members.

And then there's the General Assembly:

UN General Assembly: To which all countries and players belong. You can also propose General Assembly Resolutions, which pass if they receive a simple majority (no 2/3 rule to make things easier). These resolutions won't be binding, but they will affect the perception of a country's actions and its relationship to NPC's.

Other than presenting resolutions or asking for interventions of different sorts, you're welcome to engage in diplomatic debate and banter. Have fun!

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« Reply #1 on: February 12, 2017, 01:43:03 AM »

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« Reply #2 on: February 12, 2017, 02:09:43 AM »


Revoked.

Sorry, but no, I simply cannot see any plausible or even possible way Japan would suddenly unrecognize South Korea and place a hostile communist country as the official Korea. I'm happy to allow for player freedom on several issues, but this is pushing it way too hard.
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« Reply #3 on: February 12, 2017, 02:10:19 AM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 12, 2017, 02:11:17 AM »

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« Reply #5 on: February 12, 2017, 02:19:10 AM »


Revoked.

Sorry, but no, I simply cannot see any plausible or even possible way Japan would suddenly unrecognize South Korea and place a hostile communist country as the official Korea. I'm happy to allow for player freedom on several issues, but this is pushing it way too hard.
Ok I will introduce a revised statement.

Japan recognizes North Korea, and institutes full economic and diplomatic relations with North Korea. Until President Trump pays restitution payments for the millions of Japanese deaths and lifts their Muslim travel ban, Japan is indefinitely barring American travel to Japan:
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« Reply #6 on: February 12, 2017, 02:52:34 AM »


Revoked.

Sorry, but no, I simply cannot see any plausible or even possible way Japan would suddenly unrecognize South Korea and place a hostile communist country as the official Korea. I'm happy to allow for player freedom on several issues, but this is pushing it way too hard.
Ok I will introduce a revised statement.

Japan recognizes North Korea, and institutes full economic and diplomatic relations with North Korea. Until President Trump pays restitution payments for the millions of Japanese deaths and lifts their Muslim travel ban, Japan is indefinitely barring American travel to Japan:

France formally condemns this decision.
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« Reply #7 on: February 12, 2017, 02:57:23 AM »


Revoked.

Sorry, but no, I simply cannot see any plausible or even possible way Japan would suddenly unrecognize South Korea and place a hostile communist country as the official Korea. I'm happy to allow for player freedom on several issues, but this is pushing it way too hard.
Ok I will introduce a revised statement.

Japan recognizes North Korea, and institutes full economic and diplomatic relations with North Korea. Until President Trump pays restitution payments for the millions of Japanese deaths and lifts their Muslim travel ban, Japan is indefinitely barring American travel to Japan:

France formally condemns this decision.

As does Germany
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« Reply #8 on: February 12, 2017, 03:00:05 AM »


Revoked.

Sorry, but no, I simply cannot see any plausible or even possible way Japan would suddenly unrecognize South Korea and place a hostile communist country as the official Korea. I'm happy to allow for player freedom on several issues, but this is pushing it way too hard.
Ok I will introduce a revised statement.

Japan recognizes North Korea, and institutes full economic and diplomatic relations with North Korea. Until President Trump pays restitution payments for the millions of Japanese deaths and lifts their Muslim travel ban, Japan is indefinitely barring American travel to Japan:
India commends this action as a move that will help ease tensions in Eastern Asia and also expresses support for all members of the UN improving tensions with North Korea!
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« Reply #9 on: February 12, 2017, 03:32:11 AM »

In light of recent events surrounding North Korea, Germany proposes the following General Assembly Resolution:

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« Reply #10 on: February 12, 2017, 04:20:37 AM »

In light of recent events surrounding North Korea, Germany proposes the following General Assembly Resolution:

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« Reply #11 on: February 12, 2017, 12:18:24 PM »

In light of recent events surrounding North Korea, Germany proposes the following General Assembly Resolution:

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« Reply #12 on: February 12, 2017, 12:21:46 PM »

In light of recent events surrounding North Korea, Germany proposes the following General Assembly Resolution:

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« Reply #13 on: February 12, 2017, 12:27:45 PM »
« Edited: February 12, 2017, 12:34:15 PM by Speaker 1184AZ »

While we all may want greater national security, this motion is far too intrusive into another countries affairs. Right now Japan feels that the current missal testing by North Korea is not harmful, and sees no reason to ask North Korea to stop their nuclear testing program.

Edit: To make it clear, Japan votes no on this motion in its current form
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« Reply #14 on: February 12, 2017, 12:28:38 PM »

UN General Secretary: We recognize the General Assembly Resolution introduced by Germany, and we ask other countries to continue voting for or against the resolution.

As an aside, folks, take a closer look at the rules for the UN. There's Security Council Resolutions, which are binding and subject to a veto, and there's General Assembly Resolutions, non-binding and not subject to a veto. Dereich's example is how to do the General Assembly type, and you cannot veto those.
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« Reply #15 on: February 12, 2017, 12:31:29 PM »

We believe the nuclear issue may be resolved by a mutually respectful diplomatic discourse, as it happened in case of our own country. This resolution, with all respect to Germany, is not a right step and certainly not at this stage.

Therefore, Iran votes no.
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« Reply #16 on: February 12, 2017, 12:39:36 PM »

Turkey will abstain on this Resolution, pending further information on that matter.
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« Reply #17 on: February 12, 2017, 01:11:14 PM »

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Korea votes no and encourages Germany to cast aside its history of hate in favor of a new relationship with the international community built upon a solid foundation of peace and global prosperity.
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« Reply #18 on: February 12, 2017, 01:20:53 PM »

China votes no. The People's Republic is alarmed by the attempts to single out its good Korean friend.
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« Reply #19 on: February 12, 2017, 01:21:50 PM »

The British Ambassador to the United Nations, Matthew Rycroft, introduces the following resolution before the United Nations Security Council:

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« Reply #20 on: February 12, 2017, 01:23:18 PM »

The British Ambassador to the United Nations, Matthew Rycroft, introduces the following resolution before the United Nations Security Council:

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« Reply #21 on: February 12, 2017, 01:57:04 PM »

The PRC would like to propose the following resolution before the General AssemblySad

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For too long have strong important nations like these two powers lacked a seat at the table, especially when it concerns their interests most of the time. Granting these two Asian nations permanent membership at the table will ensure it is not just Europe making decisions and that most of the world's population will be represented with a permanent seat.
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« Reply #22 on: February 12, 2017, 02:10:04 PM »

UN General Secretary: We recognize the General Assembly Resolution introduced by Germany, and we ask other countries to continue voting for or against the resolution.

As an aside, folks, take a closer look at the rules for the UN. There's Security Council Resolutions, which are binding and subject to a veto, and there's General Assembly Resolutions, non-binding and not subject to a veto. Dereich's example is how to do the General Assembly type, and you cannot veto those.

The U.K. votes Aye.
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« Reply #23 on: February 12, 2017, 02:36:31 PM »

The PRC would like to propose the following resolution before the General AssemblySad

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For too long have strong important nations like these two powers lacked a seat at the table, especially when it concerns their interests most of the time. Granting these two Asian nations permanent membership at the table will ensure it is not just Europe making decisions and that most of the world's population will be represented with a permanent seat.

The Islamic Republic of Iran is all for including more nations into deciding process, but of India and Japan were to receive permanent seats on the council, so should Germany and Brazil. Latin America in particular is underepresented.
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« Reply #24 on: February 12, 2017, 03:49:37 PM »

The PRC would like to propose the following resolution before the General AssemblySad

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For too long have strong important nations like these two powers lacked a seat at the table, especially when it concerns their interests most of the time. Granting these two Asian nations permanent membership at the table will ensure it is not just Europe making decisions and that most of the world's population will be represented with a permanent seat.

The US votes no; we agree that India may need a seat, but see the liberal expansion of the permanent security council a bad move.

The US votes yes on Germany's resolution.
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