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« on: February 10, 2017, 09:52:57 PM »
« edited: February 10, 2017, 10:05:31 PM by Ronnie »

I'm really surprised I hadn't heard about this until now, since I live in Los Angeles.  Regardless, Rachel Maddow just reported on it:

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http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2017/02/10/160-arrested-across-southern-california-in-immigration-crackdown/
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« Reply #1 on: February 10, 2017, 10:03:18 PM »

Trump should just come out with a plan to deport all the illegals.
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« Reply #2 on: February 10, 2017, 10:16:12 PM »


Dang! It's like since Trump became President we're all living in a bad movie.
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« Reply #3 on: February 10, 2017, 10:16:18 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.
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« Reply #4 on: February 10, 2017, 10:17:56 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

it's legal anyway, i would just be interested which kind of criminal record.

coming into the US illegally  is giving you a criminal record, not?
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« Reply #5 on: February 10, 2017, 10:25:21 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

it's legal anyway, i would just be interested which kind of criminal record.

coming into the US illegally  is giving you a criminal record, not?

While I agree with you with that, I simply feel that the monetary costs ($400 to $600 billion) of deporting all 11 illegal million immigrants is far too high. Plus, deporting 11 million illegal immigrants en masse could create humanitarian problems such as a number of deportees dying along the way (much like we saw with Operation Wet Back).

My opinion is that there are simply too many illegal immigrants to safely deport them ALL at a low cost, so we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.
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« Reply #6 on: February 10, 2017, 11:14:48 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.
At least one person was accidentally arrested because he had the same name.
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« Reply #7 on: February 10, 2017, 11:17:26 PM »

La noche de los vidrios comienza.
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« Reply #8 on: February 10, 2017, 11:29:50 PM »

Obama had no problem with the deportation of criminal aliens. This raid changes nothing. Even the argument "don't break up families" fails to defend a juvenile who is a member of a criminal gang.

So what would you do with this family?

Enrique, 41. Native of Honduras. Illegally immigrated to the USA in 2008 with a wife Rosa and three children. Escaped drug violence knowing that he has a death warrant by a drug syndicate in Honduras after nine years. Works in a body shop. No criminal record.

Rosa, 38. Enrique's husband, also from Honduras. Mother of six kids.

Marta, 19. Married to a US-born citizen of Mexican origin. Has a child born in the USA. Attending junior college and does part-time work as a waitress.

Roberto, known to most of his friends as "Bobby", 17. Getting good grades in school. He speaks unexceptionable English, so nobody knows that he is an illegal alien. He already has a girlfriend, a blue-eyed blond girl from Iowa. Her parents were troubled at first until they realized how level-headed he is.

Luis, 15. High-school  drop-out, member of the infamous gang MS-13, and you don't want to know most of his aliases; pimp and pusher. Rumors are that he has killed, but nobody wants to place any murders on him because he would be tried as a juvenile. The police are looking for bigger fish. He might grow up into that role.

Carlota, 12. She has been in America since she was three, so she wouldn't know how to live in Honduras -- especially if she should be stuck with Luis as a mentor. If she stays in America she may do fine.  

Bernardo, age 8. Born in the USA. Mentally retarded with other disabilities.

Teresa, age 7. Unremarkable. Of course born in the USA.

....Now which of these do you deport?

You obviously can't deport Bernardo or Teresa. Marta is married to a US citizen  and has her own anchor baby. Carlota? There would be humanitarian concerns even if she is an 'illegal alien'. Roberto might join the Armed Services just to get legal status, but if he doesn't, he will probably do fine.

Bernardo and Teresa will need their parents.

Luis of course must be deported. If he gets killed in Honduras by fellow gang members, then such is the consequences of being involved in his way of life.

I hope that I have not used too blatant of stereotypes here.
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« Reply #9 on: February 10, 2017, 11:32:35 PM »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?
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« Reply #10 on: February 10, 2017, 11:37:57 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

I am reading from reports that they are detaining people who lack documentation in the process too.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/federal-agents-conduct-sweeping-immigration-enforcement-raids-in-at-least-6-states/2017/02/10/4b9f443a-efc8-11e6-b4ff-ac2cf509efe5_story.html?utm_term=.fd2a72291379
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« Reply #11 on: February 10, 2017, 11:38:47 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2017, 01:08:57 PM by pbrower2a »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?

The Obama policy was

(1) to catch people at the borders, and

(2) deport criminal aliens.

The first can deal with some humanitarian issues -- like people dying of cold, heatstroke, dehydration, hunger, and snake bites.    

The second involves betrayal of standards expected of us all.

So -- do not break up families; family cohesion is both a conservative and humanistic virtue worthy of honor.   
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« Reply #12 on: February 10, 2017, 11:44:36 PM »

Despicable.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 12:11:03 AM »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?

The Obama policy was

(1) to catch people at the borders, and

(2) deport criminal aliens.

The first can deal with some humanitarian issues -- like people dying of cold, heatstroke, dehydration, hunger, and snake bites.    

The second involves betrayal of standards expected of us all.

-Great idea! We should allow criminals into the U.S. to finally transform it into an open sewer like Haiti!
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2017, 12:28:30 AM »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?

The Obama policy was

(1) to catch people at the borders, and

(2) deport criminal aliens.

The first can deal with some humanitarian issues -- like people dying of cold, heatstroke, dehydration, hunger, and snake bites.    

The second involves betrayal of standards expected of us all.

-Great idea! We should allow criminals into the U.S. to finally transform it into an open sewer like Haiti!

What the actual ? Shut up and don't be a racist bigoted idiot
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 12:34:27 AM »

God bless the ACLU

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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 02:00:48 AM »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?

The Obama policy was

(1) to catch people at the borders, and

(2) deport criminal aliens.

The first can deal with some humanitarian issues -- like people dying of cold, heatstroke, dehydration, hunger, and snake bites.    

The second involves betrayal of standards expected of us all.

-Great idea! We should allow criminals into the U.S. to finally transform it into an open sewer like Haiti!

What the actual ? Shut up and don't be a racist bigoted idiot

-Unlike some red pic'd posters here, I'm against crime.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 02:56:55 AM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

it's legal anyway, i would just be interested which kind of criminal record.

coming into the US illegally  is giving you a criminal record, not?

While I agree with you with that, I simply feel that the monetary costs ($400 to $600 billion) of deporting all 11 illegal million immigrants is far too high.

The cost of paying welfare to these mostly impoverished immigrants and their children and their children' children for generations to come is even higher.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 12:37:14 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2017, 12:48:31 PM »

Jerry Brown should send the national guard to protect the good, hard-working residents of California against T***p's thugs.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 01:15:52 PM »

.....we should just focus on deporting those who have committed crimes other than illegally crossing the border or overstaying their Visas.

Isn't that the existing policy?

The Obama policy was

(1) to catch people at the borders, and

(2) deport criminal aliens.

The first can deal with some humanitarian issues -- like people dying of cold, heatstroke, dehydration, hunger, and snake bites.    

The second involves betrayal of standards expected of us all.

-Great idea! We should allow criminals into the U.S. to finally transform it into an open sewer like Haiti!

Did I say that I am sympathetic to criminality? So far as I know ICE could deport aliens for shoplifting or check-kiting.

By the way -- your choice of Haiti as a nightmare may expose racism. Haiti is an open sewer to the extent that it is overpopulated and underdeveloped. Haitians can do quite well in America. 
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 01:18:58 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

it's legal anyway, i would just be interested which kind of criminal record.

coming into the US illegally  is giving you a criminal record, not?

While I agree with you with that, I simply feel that the monetary costs ($400 to $600 billion) of deporting all 11 illegal million immigrants is far too high.

The cost of paying welfare to these mostly impoverished immigrants and their children and their children' children for generations to come is even higher.

And the US certainly isn't going to do anything to help lift anyone (except certain white men) out of poverty. Especially once Pussygrabber and the American Nazi Party finishing implementing their de facto caste system for the US.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 01:27:50 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

asking once again...wouldn't any known illegal not automatically have a...criminal background?
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2017, 01:35:38 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

If Trump basically continues the Obama policy only with more cameras/publicity, I'm really not gonna sweat it
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2017, 01:37:14 PM »

I don't have much issue with this since nearly all of them have criminal backgrounds.

If Trump basically continues the Obama policy only with more cameras/publicity, I'm really not gonna sweat it

biggest difference:

obama was just following the law and be done with it.

trump is going to make a big deal out of it.

i guess he could be softer and still be seen like the tougher one.
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