HB 2016-1075 - Electoral Tie Resolution Amendment (FINAL VOTE)

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I do not believe that they have to be a member of Atlasia, as some of the best people come from other countries, and they may be the best for country. Therefore I will be voting against the constitutional amendment.

Foreigners can register within Atlasia and be President like my predecessor and opponent in the last election, Blair2015 is from the UK. The amendment is merely stating that the person must be registered in the game to be President, which applies to voting, holding office etc generally. That is actually currently part of the constitution, the only changes are what is in bold.  

The purpose of this amendment is to provide a clearer way to resolve ties since the last Presidential election resulted in myself and Blair2015 being tied 56-56 in the regular election and then again 62-62 in the runoff. The end result was we had to split the term in half.

There were numerous issues with the previous language not making clear sense and there was uncertainty as to how the tie should be handled, which Blair and I cut a deal to resolve. However, had we a situation where a deal couldn't be reached that could prove problematic. This sets up a process to prevent that unlikely, but potentially worrisome scenario.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What is the current standard? I thought that portion was the same.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am afraid I must agree with Representative Blair here.


The limit for citizenry is low to get people in and established. A House member disappears or a regional legislator, they can be replaced without too much problem (though it has been problematic at times as Emperor/Governor PiT and many other current and former executives can tell you.

But a President disappearing would cripple the game.

I would also note that it is a threshold that a lot of socks rarely meet before getting caught or exposing themselves. The three biggest exceptions being President Napoleon (Hamilton), Senator NVTownsend (SvenssonRS) and President Tyrion (Ogis).

But the number of socks that have made it that high are few. Lowering the threshold would make it far more easier and less likely that they be caught first and as with Tyrion and Napoleon for that matter, their Presidency were rather terrible or had terrible consequences.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Can I make a recommendation!


That the amendment be passed as is and sent to the regions so that we have an electoral tie process in place that works. And then deal with the post requirement for President later through another amendment?

We should not have to go through another October and it is bad enough that February will go by before this can get ratified.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Can I make a recommendation!


That the underlying amendment be passed as is and sent to the regions so that we have an electoral tie process in place that works. And then deal with the post requirement for President later through another amendment?

We should not have to go through another October and it is bad enough that February will go by before this can get ratified.

I respect the concern over this standard, but the primary issue in this amendment is fixing the tied elections process, that needs to get on the books immediately. The issue over posting requirements for President can be handled seperately, and not require this be sent back to the Senate, for them to tank it possibly over this.

Please do not poison pill the underlying amendment, for the love of god handle the posting issue separately.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Well that is gratitude for ya

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Enduro, I promise you I will make sure an amendment on the President's activity requirement makes it to the floor.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

I am using the fact that final votes are suppose to last a maximum of 72 hours as an excuse to extend this vote by another 24 hours.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

AYE


Damn that feels good!

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Vote on Final House Passage of the Electoral Tie Resolution Amendment:

Aye (: 1184AZ, Enduro, Goldwater/NC Yankee, OneJ_, NeverAgain, Peebs, Simossad, TedBessell
Nay (0):
Abstain (0):

Missed Vote (1): Heisenberg and Potus (Would have displaced NeverAgain's Vote)

With time having expired and eight Representatives voting in the affirmative, this Joint Resolution is sent to the Vice President for certification of passage by both chambes before being sent out to the regions for ratification.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

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Atlasian People's House of Representatives:
Passed 8-0 by the Atlasian House Assembled,


Atlasian Senate
Passed 5-0 in the Atlasian Senate Assembled,
4th Congress Senate PPT Signature

President of Congress:
Certifying Passage of Joint Resolution in Congress Assembled and transmitting to the regions for ratification,
Incumbent President of Congress Signature Required

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[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Nine people. Means nine people reading each bill for mistakes.

Just saying!