Should the Connecticut Compromise be repealed?
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Question: And should the unrepresentative senate be abolished?
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« on: February 11, 2017, 06:17:07 PM »

The only reasonable answer is yes.
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 06:20:15 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 06:28:55 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 06:30:40 PM »

Of course not, I don't want California to send even more of their people to DC. When they're sending their people they're not sending their best.
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« Reply #4 on: February 11, 2017, 06:41:01 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)
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« Reply #5 on: February 11, 2017, 06:41:38 PM »

I favor a complete restructuring of the constitution, so the Connecticut Compromise shouldn't be removed so much as go down with the ship.
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« Reply #6 on: February 11, 2017, 06:42:22 PM »

Californians are Untermenschen.
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« Reply #7 on: February 11, 2017, 06:42:46 PM »

Of course not, I don't want California to send even more of their people to DC. When they're sending their people they're not sending their best.
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« Reply #8 on: February 11, 2017, 06:44:17 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?
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« Reply #9 on: February 11, 2017, 06:45:44 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )
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« Reply #10 on: February 11, 2017, 06:46:38 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )

I know that's what everybody says, but most people don't actually believe it.
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« Reply #11 on: February 11, 2017, 06:48:48 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )

I know that's what everybody says, but most people don't actually believe it.

To me I like the idea of a house of congress representing the states as that stop the fringe left and fringe left from imposing their will.
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« Reply #12 on: February 11, 2017, 06:49:59 PM »

The argument that the Senate is meant to be a safeguard against democracy became pretty much obsolete with the 17th amendment. The only reason to keep it around at this point is because we've apparently come to a consensus as a society that the only Americans whose opinions matter are the ones who come from Wyoming, Alaska, and Delaware, because reasons.
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« Reply #13 on: February 11, 2017, 06:50:09 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )

I know that's what everybody says, but most people don't actually believe it.

To me I like the idea of a house of congress representing the states as that stop the fringe left and fringe left from imposing their will.

But does it actually do that?
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« Reply #14 on: February 11, 2017, 06:51:21 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )

I know that's what everybody says, but most people don't actually believe it.

To me I like the idea of a house of congress representing the states as that stop the fringe left and fringe left from imposing their will.
Because, as the most recent election has shown, if there's one thing our Constitutional safeguards proved successful at is keeping the fringe right out of power.
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« Reply #15 on: February 11, 2017, 06:52:59 PM »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

...seriously?

yup (that came from the democrats in the documentary Newt Gingrich and the 1994 Republican Revolution )

I know that's what everybody says, but most people don't actually believe it.

To me I like the idea of a house of congress representing the states as that stop the fringe left and fringe left from imposing their will.

But does it actually do that?

yes it does there's a reason there isnt a progressive caucus in the senate(other then bernie) and a freedom caucus in the senate
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« Reply #16 on: February 11, 2017, 06:56:24 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2017, 06:59:48 PM by Cashew »

Heck no , the senate is not supposed to be representative of populations it's supposed to be representives of the states

"I support the way things are because that's the way things are."

I'm looking for justification, not motive.

Well pretty simple the senate is supposed to safeguard the country from the passions of the majority (the house)

That was a miserable failure, as last time I checked, the smaller rural states are where most of the "populists" are located.
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« Reply #17 on: February 11, 2017, 07:02:14 PM »

God, a vote to confirm Cabinet members and Supreme Court Justices in the House would be a nightmare in the House rather than the Senate.
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« Reply #18 on: February 11, 2017, 07:22:33 PM »

Absolutely.
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« Reply #19 on: February 11, 2017, 07:40:22 PM »

No.   But if someone has an alternative plan for electing a Senate that keeps its function as a smaller, deliberative upper house, I'd be open to consider it.
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« Reply #20 on: February 11, 2017, 08:28:18 PM »

Of course not. The Senate works fine as it is. Stop complaining because your cities-only strategy is locking you out of it, Democrats.
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« Reply #21 on: February 11, 2017, 08:29:59 PM »

I favor a complete restructuring of the constitution, so the Connecticut Compromise shouldn't be removed so much as go down with the ship.
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« Reply #22 on: February 11, 2017, 08:52:26 PM »

Of course not. The Senate works fine as it is. Stop complaining because your cities-only strategy is locking you out of it, Democrats.
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« Reply #23 on: February 11, 2017, 09:01:23 PM »
« Edited: February 11, 2017, 09:06:15 PM by Cashew »

Of course not. The Senate works fine as it is. Stop complaining because your cities-only strategy is locking you out of it, Democrats.

Democrats?

Amazing how nobody has managed to present a moral argument as to why some people should be better represented than others. 23 posts and nothing aside from DavidB's political expediency comment and appeals to tradition. Simply amazing.
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« Reply #24 on: February 11, 2017, 09:06:37 PM »

Of course not. The Senate works fine as it is. Stop complaining because your cities-only strategy is locking you out of it, Democrats.

Democrats?

Amazing how nobody has managed to present a moral argument as to why some people should be better represented than others. 23 posts and nothing aside from DavidB's political expediency comment. Simply amazing.

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