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  If the USA had to change from federal to Unitary or Confederate, which one? (search mode)
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Question: If the USA had to change from federal to Unitary or Confederate, which one?
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Antonio the Sixth
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« on: February 11, 2017, 08:02:31 PM »

Unitary when Democrats are in power, Confederate when Republicans are in power (sane). Tongue

Seriously though, the principle of federalism is good for a country like the US. It's the way it's put into practice that poses problem.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #1 on: February 11, 2017, 09:10:16 PM »

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What do you suggest?

I think the division of power between States and the Federal Government needs a complete overhaul. It was written for a time when governments in general took up very different tasks than those they have today. The constitution's enumeration of federal powers says essentially nothing about these new competencies, and this results in continuous legal battles to understand what Congress can and can't do (and artifices like NFIB vs Sebelius to justify Congress taking up powers that it doesn't really have). We need a much more comprehensive division of powers that addresses these various issues. I think a good idea could be to look into more modern federal States, like Germany.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #2 on: February 11, 2017, 10:55:51 PM »

Confederate government, preferably with states being coalesced into regions.  Shifting every two or four years from mildly center-left governments to far-right governments and forcing the half of the country which dissents to submit to its will does not make for a sustainable political system.

This means condemning the citizens of 60-65% of the country to live under full (and, thanks to gerrymander, likely everlasting) far-right domination.
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Antonio the Sixth
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« Reply #3 on: February 11, 2017, 11:28:14 PM »

Confederate government, preferably with states being coalesced into regions.  Shifting every two or four years from mildly center-left governments to far-right governments and forcing the half of the country which dissents to submit to its will does not make for a sustainable political system.

This means condemning the citizens of 60-65% of the country to live under full (and, thanks to gerrymander, likely everlasting) far-right domination.

How so?  It would come down to how regional boundaries are drawn, or even the states themselves could be redrawn so that the reliably liberal and conservative-voting constituencies don't have to clash with each other.  Or the municipalities could have more power.  That would mean no more overreaching state laws repealing minimum wage increases and civil rights ordinances.

Very often "conservative-voting" constituencies are the first victims of conservative policies. I don't think the moral solution for the left is to abandon those voters to their conmen.

Packing Democrats and Republicans together is the best way to accentuate the trends that have made US politics so dysfunctional.
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