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« Reply #25 on: February 12, 2017, 07:38:35 PM »

I hope not but never say never. Nixon 1968, after all. She could be more 'authentic', reinvent herself as an economic populist and try run on buyer's remorse to Trump and as a 'New Hillary'. I don't think she should or would run, she is a terrible candidate, but I can't say she won't.

It's the fact that she continually re-invents herself, having no real ideology, that makes people dislike and distrust her in the first place.
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« Reply #26 on: February 12, 2017, 08:22:54 PM »

I hope not but never say never. Nixon 1968, after all. She could be more 'authentic', reinvent herself as an economic populist and try run on buyer's remorse to Trump and as a 'New Hillary'. I don't think she should or would run, she is a terrible candidate, but I can't say she won't.

It's the fact that she continually re-invents herself, having no real ideology, that makes people dislike and distrust her in the first place.

Oh, she has an ideology. And if you pay a bunch of money you can find out her real private positions rather than her bogus public positions.
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« Reply #27 on: February 12, 2017, 08:36:42 PM »

I hope not but never say never. Nixon 1968, after all. She could be more 'authentic', reinvent herself as an economic populist and try run on buyer's remorse to Trump and as a 'New Hillary'. I don't think she should or would run, she is a terrible candidate, but I can't say she won't.

It's the fact that she continually re-invents herself, having no real ideology, that makes people dislike and distrust her in the first place.

Oh, she has an ideology. And if you pay a bunch of money you can find out her real private positions rather than her bogus public positions.

To find out my actual beliefs, just give me a small donation of $500,000!
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« Reply #28 on: February 12, 2017, 08:42:57 PM »

Statements like this make me wonder if most political commentators even see candidates are real people at the end of the day.  

Hillary Clinton has a method of operating that's been on display for the better part of the past 30 years.  She can't reinvent herself now, and she won't...because its Hillary Clinton.

To be fair, Hillary Clinton has reinvented herself every time she has sought an office (whether on her own behalf or her husband's) and largely gotten away with it: the firebrand feminist in 1992; the toned-down, conservative housewife in 1996; the upstate Yankee in 2000; the blue dog, gun-loving populist in 2008; and the...whatever you want to call it in 2016. Considering that she herself effectively has won the presidency twice, I'd say it worked.
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« Reply #29 on: February 12, 2017, 08:48:44 PM »

Statements like this make me wonder if most political commentators even see candidates are real people at the end of the day.  

Hillary Clinton has a method of operating that's been on display for the better part of the past 30 years.  She can't reinvent herself now, and she won't...because its Hillary Clinton.

To be fair, Hillary Clinton has reinvented herself every time she has sought an office (whether on her own behalf or her husband's) and largely gotten away with it: the firebrand feminist in 1992; the toned-down, conservative housewife in 1996; the upstate Yankee in 2000; the blue dog, gun-loving populist in 2008; and the...whatever you want to call it in 2016. Considering that she herself effectively has won the presidency twice, I'd say it worked.

I want the 1992 Hillary:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-namImCszCk
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« Reply #30 on: February 12, 2017, 09:20:02 PM »

I'll believe it when I see it.
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« Reply #31 on: February 13, 2017, 01:53:26 AM »

Assuming that we're not in the <1% of universes where I somehow join the #TrumpTrain, I would simply vote third-party again if it was Clinton vs. Trump again.

Even if Comey is right that what she did wasn't technically a crime, Clinton was extremely careless and put our national security at risk with her email system (especially when she allowed her staff to send highly sensitive equipment through the public snail mail system), and even worse, she doesn't believe she was extremely careless. Even if I forget about that, there is still a list of at least 20 different things, from her calling pro-lifers terrorists, to her calling the entire republican party the "political enemy she was most proud of making", to her flip-flopping on immigration so many times that I'm not even sure what her final position was, to her showing weakness by refusing to form an opinion on Keystone until 99% of the world had an opinion on it, to her incredibly spineless and dishonest TPP "flip", to her working with party leaders to rig the primary for her as much as legally possible, to wanting to repeal the Hyde Amendment, to her support for socialist health care policies like the public option, etc. etc. etc.

At this point I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I would vote for Hillary Clinton. I can barely believe that I almost voted for her in 2016 - In fact, if the election was held in September, I almost certainly would have. God brought me back from the brink because he knew that if I did it, I would regret it for the rest of my life. And I would be a very bad christian if I were to turn around and vote for her a few years later, whatever the justification.

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« Reply #32 on: February 13, 2017, 02:04:52 AM »
« Edited: February 13, 2017, 02:07:59 AM by Reluctant Republican »

Part of me hopes she does. I was part of the 2% or so who did not really mind either candidate last year. Be rather neat to see a rematch.

Imagine reading her biography if she became president in 2020. It would be like 700 pages before you got to her taking office. Hell of a prologue. Tongue
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« Reply #33 on: February 13, 2017, 12:45:08 PM »

Assuming that we're not in the <1% of universes where I somehow join the #TrumpTrain, I would simply vote third-party again if it was Clinton vs. Trump again.

Even if Comey is right that what she did wasn't technically a crime, Clinton was extremely careless and put our national security at risk with her email system (especially when she allowed her staff to send highly sensitive equipment through the public snail mail system), and even worse, she doesn't believe she was extremely careless. Even if I forget about that, there is still a list of at least 20 different things, from her calling pro-lifers terrorists, to her calling the entire republican party the "political enemy she was most proud of making", to her flip-flopping on immigration so many times that I'm not even sure what her final position was, to her showing weakness by refusing to form an opinion on Keystone until 99% of the world had an opinion on it, to her incredibly spineless and dishonest TPP "flip", to her working with party leaders to rig the primary for her as much as legally possible, to wanting to repeal the Hyde Amendment, to her support for socialist health care policies like the public option, etc. etc. etc.

At this point I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I would vote for Hillary Clinton. I can barely believe that I almost voted for her in 2016 - In fact, if the election was held in September, I almost certainly would have. God brought me back from the brink because he knew that if I did it, I would regret it for the rest of my life. And I would be a very bad christian if I were to turn around and vote for her a few years later, whatever the justification.



If Hillary runs again and wins the nomination, the Democrats will have in my opinion have learned no lessons from 2016.
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« Reply #34 on: February 13, 2017, 01:11:20 PM »

Assuming that we're not in the <1% of universes where I somehow join the #TrumpTrain, I would simply vote third-party again if it was Clinton vs. Trump again.

Even if Comey is right that what she did wasn't technically a crime, Clinton was extremely careless and put our national security at risk with her email system (especially when she allowed her staff to send highly sensitive equipment through the public snail mail system), and even worse, she doesn't believe she was extremely careless. Even if I forget about that, there is still a list of at least 20 different things, from her calling pro-lifers terrorists, to her calling the entire republican party the "political enemy she was most proud of making", to her flip-flopping on immigration so many times that I'm not even sure what her final position was, to her showing weakness by refusing to form an opinion on Keystone until 99% of the world had an opinion on it, to her incredibly spineless and dishonest TPP "flip", to her working with party leaders to rig the primary for her as much as legally possible, to wanting to repeal the Hyde Amendment, to her support for socialist health care policies like the public option, etc. etc. etc.

At this point I'd write in Mickey Mouse before I would vote for Hillary Clinton. I can barely believe that I almost voted for her in 2016 - In fact, if the election was held in September, I almost certainly would have. God brought me back from the brink because he knew that if I did it, I would regret it for the rest of my life. And I would be a very bad christian if I were to turn around and vote for her a few years later, whatever the justification.



If Hillary runs again and wins the nomination, the Democrats will have in my opinion have learned no lessons from 2016.

-I would not be surprised. I suspect the Black, Southern White, and Hispanic votes alone could nominate HRC in 2020.
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« Reply #35 on: February 13, 2017, 04:59:40 PM »

The Politico story’s evidence for another Clinton run is pretty thin, as Ed Kilgore details here:

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2017/02/no-hillary-clinton-is-not-plotting-a-2020-comeback.html

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« Reply #36 on: February 13, 2017, 08:23:53 PM »

I think she's keeping the door open. A wait and see approach with Trump. She certainly has an argument. 48.0% - 45.9%
Probably yes. I think in the end it is quite unlikely that she runs, but I do believe she could be pursuaded if the dems have trouble finding a strong enough candidate.
Such an approach might be great for the Progressive Movement.  I doubt, however, that it would be good for America, but Hillary doesn't care about that.

I'm convinced she'd like to run again, and is trying to figure out how it can happen.  The Democrats' bench is thin enough to where this is far from out of the question.
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« Reply #37 on: February 14, 2017, 10:47:47 AM »

That’s the reason I threw Politico out of my Like-List at Facebook.
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« Reply #38 on: February 14, 2017, 10:53:03 AM »

That’s the reason I threw Politico out of my Like-List at Facebook.
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« Reply #39 on: February 14, 2017, 11:03:28 AM »

The woman (electorally) lost to Donald Fricking Trump. That alone disqualifies her from even thinking about a 2020 run.
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« Reply #40 on: February 14, 2017, 11:43:59 AM »

Hillary Clinton won't win in a 2020 Democratic primary the way the national mood is shifting. People admire her and like her, but she's already run TWO unsuccessful presidential campaigns.
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« Reply #41 on: February 14, 2017, 11:55:34 AM »

Not happening. Piece was written by a Bush-era hack trying to stir the pot.
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« Reply #42 on: February 14, 2017, 01:42:51 PM »

That seems utterly bizarre as an idea.
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« Reply #43 on: February 14, 2017, 02:51:24 PM »

LOL, she won't win the nomination. And if Democrats really were that dumb - what I doubt - it would be a self-inflicted loss. A 2016 rematch would serve the Donald a second term on a silver platter. Americans are sick and tired of the Clintons.
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