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Rjjr77
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« on: February 16, 2017, 05:35:05 PM »

Teachers are actually some of the most underpaid people in this country you dumba**

Complete madness.

The government education industry complex has grown like a virus. Government education industry complex staffing is almost quadruple what it was during the Kennedy Administration.

They are stealing billions of dollars!

That's not true.  A lot of schools are actually understaffed with most of the personnel working part-time.  I will agree that some school principles make a s***-load of money (in most states the person with the highest income is a university president), but for most teachers, the income they make is barely enough to get by.

Ehh.. This is not true. Many new teachers make lower wages, but it is still usually an entry level salary on par with others entry level salaries. Full time teachers tend to make a pretty good wage, one often much higher than the median income for their state
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 11:54:28 PM »

Teachers are actually some of the most underpaid people in this country you dumba**

Complete madness.

The government education industry complex has grown like a virus. Government education industry complex staffing is almost quadruple what it was during the Kennedy Administration.

They are stealing billions of dollars!

That's not true.  A lot of schools are actually understaffed with most of the personnel working part-time.  I will agree that some school principles make a s***-load of money (in most states the person with the highest income is a university president), but for most teachers, the income they make is barely enough to get by.

The median income of a US high school teacher is $57,200 a year. Again, that's actually $57,000 for 10 months but even if it was for a full year, that's still a lot of money. If you are "barely getting by" on $57,000 a year, you are literally mentally disabled and should not be in charge of teaching children.

That's probably the salary of full-time teachers.  Part-timers or subs don't make anywhere near that much.  Plus, high school teachers are not the only teachers that exist.  I can understand why a Trump supporter would hate teachers (they love the uneducated), but why does a red avatar hate teachers so much?

Median salary of an elementary school teacher is 55 and the median salary of a middle school teacher is 56.

Yes, I'm talking about full time. Why would you except someone who works part time to make the same as someone who works full time?

What are you proposing? That part time teachers should be paid for time they don't work? Or they should be paid double because they work less?

Teachers are well paid. Especially compared to other Western countries.

Don't take the word of teacher's unions that teachers are on the brink of poverty. They are not objective. It is literally the job of a union to always insist on getting raise for their members regardless of performance, merit, or market value.

^This.

The teacher's unions have gaslighted the public for years on this issue.
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Rjjr77
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« Reply #2 on: February 17, 2017, 08:20:14 PM »

Teachers are actually some of the most underpaid people in this country you dumba**

Complete madness.

The government education industry complex has grown like a virus. Government education industry complex staffing is almost quadruple what it was during the Kennedy Administration.

They are stealing billions of dollars!

That's not true.  A lot of schools are actually understaffed with most of the personnel working part-time.  I will agree that some school principles make a s***-load of money (in most states the person with the highest income is a university president), but for most teachers, the income they make is barely enough to get by.

Ehh.. This is not true. Many new teachers make lower wages, but it is still usually an entry level salary on par with others entry level salaries. Full time teachers tend to make a pretty good wage, one often much higher than the median income for their state

Lol, maybe in California, but in most states schools are quite underfunded. The teachers here in AZ aren't paid nearly enough(esp for a job that requires 6+ years of college), and our schools are horrifically underfunded.
I don't live in California, and actually when you consider they work around 9 months a year, they actually do make more.

As for AZ... No teachers aren't hurting there either...
http://www1.salary.com/AZ/Public-School-Teacher-salary.html
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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 12:33:15 PM »

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The 9 month myth is one that those who think teaching is easy and natural love to bring out. The summer "vacation" is when those in the teaching profession mostly take care of the professional development and recertification that those in other professions don't all do during the same time of the year. Do doctors only work when in the examination room? Do lawyers work only when in the courtroom? Do teachers work only in the classroom? The answer to all three is no.

Even if you include summer vacation for professional development, they do not take professional development classes all summer long, they receive spring break, a long winter break, as well as federal holidays that many people do not get.

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