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Bush may sidestep Congress on Bolton for U.N.
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White House hints at U.N. appointment while lawmakers are in recess.
http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/8702754/
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All Bush has needed to do for a vote is hand over some documents. Since he is so scared of making the documents public & to let the senate see them, he is going to pull this crap?? Real Nice. Things could get real ugly if he pulls this
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Quote from: Smash255 on July 25, 2005, 05:34:56 pm
Since he is so scared of making the documents public & to let the senate see them, he is going to pull this crap??
Much as I don't really like Bolton, the Framers did put this provision in the Constitution for a reason. Bush is merely checking and balancing the powers of the Senate; it's a perfectly justified and legitimate action on his part.
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Anyone wanna act surprised?
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More actions to increase the rest of the world's rightful hatred of America. I wonder if this will get any American's killed, on the margin.
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Bush appoints Bolton to U.N. post
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Done deal! Should the Senate now give Bolton an up or down vote?
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Re: Bush may sidestep Congress on Bolton for U.N.
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Quote from: Emsworth on July 25, 2005, 06:23:50 pm
Quote from: Smash255 on July 25, 2005, 05:34:56 pm
Since he is so scared of making the documents public & to let the senate see them, he is going to pull this crap??
Much as I don't really like Bolton, the Framers did put this provision in the Constitution for a reason. Bush is merely checking and balancing the powers of the Senate; it's a perfectly justified and legitimate action on his part.
What a bunch of bullsh**t. The framers put it in because it took weeks for Congress travel to the nation's capital in those days.
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Quote from: jfern on August 01, 2005, 09:59:46 am
What a bunch of bullsh**t. The framers put it in because it took weeks for Congress travel to the nation's capital in those days.
Uh, no. Even George Washington used the power a few days after Congress left on recess. That's why there is a limit in how long the appointee can sit in the position until having to be confirmed. It's a way for the President to get something they want done, yet not permanently (since it required Congressional approval).
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Right man for the job, I just wish there had been an easier way to get him there. I hope he is confirmed, as now more than ever we need a person least likely to appease and least likely to be soft in that position and others.
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I'd rather the lady that is/was the interim ambassador continue her work. She seems to be doing a good job.
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Quote from: TexasGurl on July 25, 2005, 06:24:59 pm
Anyone wanna act surprised?
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What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
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Quote from: Jake on August 01, 2005, 12:16:57 pm
I'd rather the lady that is/was the interim ambassador continue her work. She seems to be doing a good job.
what is her name?
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
maybe he sees eye to eye with him
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Re: Bush may sidestep Congress on Bolton for U.N.
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Quote from: jmfcst on August 01, 2005, 12:20:25 pm
Quote from: Jake on August 01, 2005, 12:16:57 pm
I'd rather the lady that is/was the interim ambassador continue her work. She seems to be doing a good job.
what is her name?
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
That Bolton helped out Plame?
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Quote from: jmfcst on August 01, 2005, 12:21:02 pm
Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
maybe he sees eye to eye with him
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Yea cause this guy is the only one that does...
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:59:41 pm
Quote from: jmfcst on August 01, 2005, 12:21:02 pm
maybe he sees eye to eye with him
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Yea cause this guy is the only one that does...
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such empty words...
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
Probably due to ideology. Bush thinks the UN needs urgent reform, so he's chosen someone who is willing to express himself without stumbling over all the diplomatic speak.
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Quote from: MODU on August 01, 2005, 01:11:06 pm
Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
Probably due to ideology. Bush thinks the UN needs urgent reform, so he's chosen someone who is willing to express himself without stumbling over all the diplomatic speak.
But I mean this is the best guy he could find for that? I don't think his record is that strong anyway.
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 01:25:58 pm
Quote from: MODU on August 01, 2005, 01:11:06 pm
Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
Probably due to ideology. Bush thinks the UN needs urgent reform, so he's chosen someone who is willing to express himself without stumbling over all the diplomatic speak.
But I mean this is the best guy he could find for that? I don't think his record is that strong anyway.
Yes, he helped out Plame. He just got a promotion for that.
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 01:25:58 pm
Quote from: MODU on August 01, 2005, 01:11:06 pm
Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
Probably due to ideology. Bush thinks the UN needs urgent reform, so he's chosen someone who is willing to express himself without stumbling over all the diplomatic speak.
But I mean this is the best guy he could find for that? I don't think his record is that strong anyway.
Not sure. Most people who move up within any Administration tend to be more calm and "political," and therefore lack the teeth which might be needed. Personally, I think Bremmer would have been a good choice, especially with the respect he built with the international community while controlling Iraq before the transition of power.
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Quote from: jfern on August 01, 2005, 01:36:16 pm
Yes, he helped out Plame. He just got a promotion for that.
I seriously doubt Bush would want someone at the UN involved in the Plame case. If Bush suspects Rove to be indicted, surely he would want to limit the scandal to other parts of the administration.
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Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
My thoughts exactly.
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Quote from: Boss Tweed on August 01, 2005, 02:52:07 pm
Quote from: AndrewBerger on August 01, 2005, 12:19:23 pm
What the hell is it about Bolton that Bush likes so much?
My thoughts exactly.
Have you not read Bush's comments on the man? Obviously Bush went out of way to get the guy he wanted, so obviously Bush believes they are both on the same page.
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