Pence vs Warren 2020

[Thunderbird is the word]

Trump is pressured to resign by GOP leaders in late 2017 with impeachment pending. Pence assumes office, signs a modified version of the TPP and pursues an aggressive agenda of privatizing Social Security, massive tax cuts and other Tea Party goodies. An economic recession sets in in late 2018 and unemployment sores to almost 10% in the summer of 2019. A slow recovery begins as Warren wins the Democratic nomination in a crowded field. On election day 2020 unemployment is down to 8.9%.

[RaphaelDLG]

In the specific scenario you've laid out, Warren wins decisively based on Trump's scandals and economic factors alone

[Kringla Heimsins]

I love Elizabeth Warren, but she is an awful campaigner. She would have trouble provoking enthusiasm, and she would be branded as an "liberal coastal elite that doesn't understand real Americans" by the Republicans.
She is reputed to be an awesome fundraiser though. But I think she would be way better as Attorney General or Treasure Secretary, and parts of me thinks she would be the perfect running mate for a non-northeastern nominee.

[Thunderbird is the word]

I don't know why everyone thinks that Warren would come off as an out of touch elite. She speaks much better about bread and butter economic issues then Hillary did and comes from a working class background in Oklahoma originally.

[Medal506]

Elizabeth Warren is probably an even weaker candidate than Hillary Clinton in 2016

[DPKdebator]

Elizabeth Warren is probably an even weaker candidate than Hillary Clinton in 2016

[iratemoderate]

What an utterly nightmarish scenario. Warren could probably win as the Democrats would know where their vulnerabilities lay and would be in a good position to capitalize on the chaos you described. Whether she could appeal to enough Midwestern blue-collar men is another question. One user on here once argued -- quite correctly, I think -- that she would be perceived as a typical "SJW"-type Democrat even if that is not the case or a gross caricature of her views and style. Turnout, therefore, would be decisive.

A fair number of Trump voters would not be motivated enough to go vote for Pence—unless, of course, it was framed as a continuation of Trump's embattled legacy. However that might go down.

As a moderate, I cannot stand either one of them, but if it were a close election, I would have to pull the lever for Elizabeth Warren as Pence is too extreme for me on social issues. He is also extremely weak on immigration and a typical Bush-ite on foreign policy, so he has no redeeming factors for me in the way that Trump on the other hand does. Warren is terrible on immigration like almost all Democrats, but she is no RWNJ.

[ClassiCoolidge]

Corey Booker's a better candidate. You can't have someone so radical that doesn't attract blue collar voters.

[RINO Tom]

Totally depends on the economy.  If the economy is in the shltter and Trump is viewed as a billionaire Republican who gave handouts to his buddies, Pence is toast.  If things are going well and Trump is just "bored" and steps aside, then I think Pence defeats Warren, as Warren sucks.

[Beet]

Warren is underestimated. This could easily be the map:

Warren 273
Pence 265

[Pyro]

Warren would win. She is not as strong a populist-style candidate as Sanders, however the outcry in her favor following the McConnell shutdown last week has me thinking she would easily garner enough support to win rather confidently - with the right campaign after all.

[DPKdebator]

Warren would win. She is not as strong a populist-style candidate as Sanders, however the outcry in her favor following the McConnell shutdown last week has me thinking she would easily garner enough support to win rather confidently - with the right campaign after all.

Totally!

[🕴🏼Melior🕴🏼]

Warren would obviously win in this scenario by a huge margin

[Blackacre]

269-269 tie

[Ronnie]

Impeachment after two years, and an 8.9 percent unemployment rate?  Any scenario other than Warren winning decisively would stun me.  She might not be the strongest Democratic candidate, but she's not that un-electable.

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Warren isn't bad enough of a candidate to lose in this scenario.

[Sir Mohamed]

In the scenario you laid out, Warren easily unseats Pence.

✓ Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)/Senator Martin Heinrich (D-NM): 352 EVs.; 51.4%
President Mike Pence (R-IN)/Vice President John Thune (R-SD): 186 EVs.; 46.6%

[The Govanah Jake]

Warren Wins. Pence would lose Trumps rust belt supporters due to still passing the TPP. He could still hold Iowa but if those conditions happened then Florida would probably flip and maybe Arizona. However i think Pence has a better chance at Nevada then Trump

[Senator-elect Spark]

Not happening but:

Senator Elizabeth Warren (D-MA)- 297 EVs, 50.3%
President Michael R. Pence (R-IN)- 241 EVs, 48.7%