ICE arrests woman reporting domestic abuse

[Trapsy]

uh,...

[Devout Centrist]

uh,...

You see, Bill got off on triangulation.

[Rjjr77]

So, I have a question for anybody who knows the law *paging Mr. Reactionary*: If this woman had had the same rap sheet, but was a citizen, would the cops have arrested her if she had a warrant out for her arrest, but was making a call on a domestic abuse claim? If so, the law is kind of messed up regardless of how immigration plays into it.

Yes.
They didn't arrest this individual for reporting domestic abuse, they arrested the person after appearing in court asking for a TRO. If it was a different person doing the same thing with open warrants they would have arrested them upon leaving the court.

[Stand With Israel. Crush Hamas]

So, I have a question for anybody who knows the law *paging Mr. Reactionary*: If this woman had had the same rap sheet, but was a citizen, would the cops have arrested her if she had a warrant out for her arrest, but was making a call on a domestic abuse claim? If so, the law is kind of messed up regardless of how immigration plays into it.

If she had a warrant out for her arrest, likely. They would have processed her complaint, the warrant would have come up, and there you go. There's very little in the way of immunity for past crimes except for select cases, like bringing in an overdose victim to the hospital.

[JA]

Several issues are important in this case...

• Detaining and deporting an undocumented immigrant for reporting domestic abuse will discourage other victims of domestic abuse, among other crimes, to not seek help or report those incidences to authorities.
• If the tip came from the allegedly abusive partner, this sets a dangerous precedent as it signals to other criminals that they can threaten, intimidate, and control people with deportation - even innocent people.
• This particular undocumented immigrant has a history of criminal behavior, including a violent act. She had been deported six times, repeatedly breaking the law by illegally re entering the country.

Clearly, we can't allow alleged abusers to have power over their victims through threats of deportation, so ICE shouldn't respond to such tips. They also shouldn't detain and deport individuals who are reporting crimes or following proper protocol by checking in with ICE. Undocumented immigrants should also be offered a pathway to citizenship, assuming they do not have a criminal record. Only those with criminal records or who have been detained for committing a crime should be deported by ICE. This woman simply doesn't belong in the country, considering her repeated and blatant disregard for our laws. But she also shouldn't have been detained and deported in these circumstances.

[Ebowed]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

You guys are the ones who can't win unless you disenfranchise people left and right.  Criminal record?  Immigrant?  No money to afford ID?  Don't own land?  Live in the cities or in populous states that power the national economy?  No vote for you, says the GOP!

Conservatives are the masters of projection.  All this time, they have been the ones altering the electorate to suit their perverse needs.

If everybody voted, you guys would never stand a chance!

[(Still) muted by Kalwejt until March 31]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

You guys are the ones who can't win unless you disenfranchise people left and right.  Criminal record?  Immigrant?  No money to afford ID?  Don't own land?  Live in the cities or in populous states that power the national economy?  No vote for you, says the GOP!

Conservatives are the masters of projection.  All this time, they have been the ones altering the electorate to suit their perverse needs.

If everybody voted, you guys would never stand a chance!

-Explain Pennsylvania.

[Jeffster]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

You guys are the ones who can't win unless you disenfranchise people left and right.  Criminal record?  Immigrant?  No money to afford ID?  Don't own land?  Live in the cities or in populous states that power the national economy?  No vote for you, says the GOP!

Conservatives are the masters of projection.  All this time, they have been the ones altering the electorate to suit their perverse needs.

If everybody voted, you guys would never stand a chance!

Unless they take the proper steps and become citizens, immigrants should not vote. What kind of loon are you to want non-citizens to choose our government?

[○∙◄☻¥tπ[╪AV┼cVê└]

The reason this is a losing issue for liberals is because of one word: "ILLEGAL".

I'm sorry. We have laws, don't we?

I assume you never jaywalked, loitered, or anything like that?

[Tartarus Sauce]

Several issues are important in this case...

• Detaining and deporting an undocumented immigrant for reporting domestic abuse will discourage other victims of domestic abuse, among other crimes, to not seek help or report those incidences to authorities.
• If the tip came from the allegedly abusive partner, this sets a dangerous precedent as it signals to other criminals that they can threaten, intimidate, and control people with deportation - even innocent people.
• This particular undocumented immigrant has a history of criminal behavior, including a violent act. She had been deported six times, repeatedly breaking the law by illegally re entering the country.

Clearly, we can't allow alleged abusers to have power over their victims through threats of deportation, so ICE shouldn't respond to such tips. They also shouldn't detain and deport individuals who are reporting crimes or following proper protocol by checking in with ICE. Undocumented immigrants should also be offered a pathway to citizenship, assuming they do not have a criminal record. Only those with criminal records or who have been detained for committing a crime should be deported by ICE. This woman simply doesn't belong in the country, considering her repeated and blatant disregard for our laws. But she also shouldn't have been detained and deported in these circumstances.

Agreed 100%

[Reaganfan]

The reason this is a losing issue for liberals is because of one word: "ILLEGAL".

I'm sorry. We have laws, don't we?

I assume you never jaywalked, loitered, or anything like that?

Don't think I have.

[publicunofficial]

The reason this is a losing issue for liberals is because of one word: "ILLEGAL".

I'm sorry. We have laws, don't we?

I assume you never jaywalked, loitered, or anything like that?

Naso has never jaywalked or smoked pot. That I'm sure of.

[pbrower2a]

Several issues are important in this case...

• Detaining and deporting an undocumented immigrant for reporting domestic abuse will discourage other victims of domestic abuse, among other crimes, to not seek help or report those incidences to authorities.
• If the tip came from the allegedly abusive partner, this sets a dangerous precedent as it signals to other criminals that they can threaten, intimidate, and control people with deportation - even innocent people.
• This particular undocumented immigrant has a history of criminal behavior, including a violent act. She had been deported six times, repeatedly breaking the law by illegally re entering the country.


Clearly, we can't allow alleged abusers to have power over their victims through threats of deportation, so ICE shouldn't respond to such tips. They also shouldn't detain and deport individuals who are reporting crimes or following proper protocol by checking in with ICE. Undocumented immigrants should also be offered a pathway to citizenship, assuming they do not have a criminal record. Only those with criminal records or who have been detained for committing a crime should be deported by ICE. This woman simply doesn't belong in the country, considering her repeated and blatant disregard for our laws. But she also shouldn't have been detained and deported in these circumstances.

Deportation is rightly used against any illegal alien convicted of spouse abuse, which is itself a crime. To that end the Feds in recent years have typically protected the battered spouse or the parent of abused children  remain in the country at the least to testify against an offender illegal alien or a citizen criminal.

Of course I assume the worst in President Trump. He is a weak leader, someone at once capricious, opportunistic, and rigid. Leaders like that often rely upon fear and humiliation to achieve their objectives often become tyrants.

[dax00]

Rightfully deported. There are legal pathways for entering and remaining in this country. So long as those pathways are used, I've not got a problem with immigrants coming in. If they attempt to sidestep the procedure, I cannot sympathize.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Washington and Jefferson were criminals too. Its not like something being a crime automatically makes people who do that thing bad.

That's worse than alternative facts.

Hardly.  The only reason those traitors didn't hang is they won.  And when treason prospers, it isn't treason.

[Ebowed]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

You guys are the ones who can't win unless you disenfranchise people left and right.  Criminal record?  Immigrant?  No money to afford ID?  Don't own land?  Live in the cities or in populous states that power the national economy?  No vote for you, says the GOP!

Conservatives are the masters of projection.  All this time, they have been the ones altering the electorate to suit their perverse needs.

If everybody voted, you guys would never stand a chance!

Unless they take the proper steps and become citizens, immigrants should not vote. What kind of loon are you to want non-citizens to choose our government?

Some municipalities let non-citizen permanent residents vote in local elections. It's not particularly controversial.

[Rjjr77]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

You guys are the ones who can't win unless you disenfranchise people left and right.  Criminal record?  Immigrant?  No money to afford ID?  Don't own land?  Live in the cities or in populous states that power the national economy?  No vote for you, says the GOP!

Conservatives are the masters of projection.  All this time, they have been the ones altering the electorate to suit their perverse needs.

If everybody voted, you guys would never stand a chance!

Unless they take the proper steps and become citizens, immigrants should not vote. What kind of loon are you to want non-citizens to choose our government?

Some municipalities let non-citizen permanent residents vote in local elections. It's not particularly controversial.

Only in Maryland, and yes it's still controversial

[SWE]

It really says something when your best hopes of winning elections are if they let felons vote. LOL

But then what does it say about Republicans when they're dependent on Jim Crow relics like felony voting bans to win elections?

[Grumpier Than Uncle Joe]

Fake president Pussygrabber continues his quest to make America more like Putin's Russia. Deplorable.

You do realize he had nothing to do with this scenario, right?  Your excessive hyperbole is wearing a tad thin.

Nothing to do with it? I suppose that's technically true. It's not as though he's ACTUALLY Chief Executive of the United States, that's just a role he plays on TV. And his rants and push for more crackdown on illegal aliens are don't have any impact on stuff like this at all.

This would have happened a month ago, believe it.