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« on: February 16, 2017, 07:34:51 PM »

Michael Flynn had to resign and now Andy Puzder withdrew his nomination. How long until everything falls apart?
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 07:36:21 PM »

Flynn was a liability since he didn't know basic facts about the intelligence agencies (i.e., they're backstabbers who don't follow the law and spy on everyone). Puzder was a liability because he was a Jeb/Romney pick.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 07:37:53 PM »

Were the wheels ever on?
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2017, 07:38:01 PM »

The wheels were never on.
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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 07:41:14 PM »

The wheels fell off Trump's campaign a few weeks into his campaign. It must be a sign of divine intervention he's managed to keep it into a controlled skid for over a year. Maybe Pope Francis can get him canonized.

See as evidence this post of mine from the summer of 2015:

Is Trump really a train wreck if he's consistently leading in national and state polls? Sure, his campaign is held up by what I can only assume is some form of dark magic or the most elaborate prank of all time, but it's held up nonetheless.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 07:54:54 PM »

nah...but if their popularity decreases on a curve, they won't get much done without EO.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 08:07:19 PM »

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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 08:13:49 PM »

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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 08:18:56 PM »

No.

When flyover country will determine that in fact, this "comic show" in far off Washington is starting to hurt their interests then the Administration will be in a world of trouble. For example, "Mamie down the street" might be suffering from reduced Medicare coverage, there's cuts to the government that mean "Tad is not getting the after school programs he needs," when there's an economic slowdown and they'll stop viewing the show in Washington as "sticking to the Establishment" and begin to realize that the country, to function, needs an establishment in Washington in the first place - reformed, but still (and no, no reformed establishment will be Trumpian, at all). Remember, they voted for Trump believing that he wouldn't cut their programs. They also voted for him believing that he would "sock it" to the neoliberal establishment.

When did Bush begin losing support? 2005, after Hurricane Katrina, and when the Iraq war began to hit small town America hard, when everyone knew someone who had lost a son or daughter in Iraq. And then when the economic slowdown of 2006 hit, they began to flip on the GOP.

It's precisely when Trump begins to lose the hold on middle America - and I mean, the persuadables, not the real hardcore lunatics and the fringe people - think Luke from Luke's Diner, who probably voted Republican, Taylor Doose. When they stop voting Republican, the GOP will be in a world of hurt. At that point, they'll boot a lot of people. And probably, the Sanders Democrats take a crack at the bat. But this won't be for a couple of years.

Let's stop doing this every 3 days and thinking every new crisis equals the fall of Donald Trump. It's going to take a very long time for the electorate to shift and acknowledge they made a mistake. The pain hasn't even begun.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2017, 08:41:02 PM »

When did Bush begin losing support? 2005, after Hurricane Katrina, and when the Iraq war began to hit small town America hard, when everyone knew someone who had lost a son or daughter in Iraq. And then when the economic slowdown of 2006 hit, they began to flip on the GOP.

Well, Bush really started losing support a few days after 9/11. It was just that 9/11 was such an enormous bounce for him that he could afford to bleed support and still win in '04. And for the record, Trump's approval right now is pretty comparable to Bush's after Hurricane Katrina.

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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2017, 08:45:11 PM »

Does this answer the question?

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« Reply #11 on: February 16, 2017, 08:52:41 PM »

Aide stops Pres Trump from leaving bill-signing ceremony because he hadn't yet signed the regulation repeal measure.

https://twitter.com/markknoller/status/832339164796420096

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« Reply #12 on: February 16, 2017, 10:48:21 PM »


No. The whole thing has run on some sort of Wile E. Coyote type of cartoon inertia the entire time. This is why I say that while I've given up predicting when it will run out, I'm confident that when it does, it's going to crash, burn, and then probably explode.
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« Reply #13 on: February 16, 2017, 10:50:14 PM »


It depends upon who you ask, a Trumpster or a sane individual. Wink
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