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« on: February 16, 2017, 09:54:16 PM »

Lol.

Before the US elections you had Orlando, cops getting shot in Texas and Louisiana, and a riot every month. Since then? Crickets.

Now that a far right nutter is running in France, there are riots there.

You'd almost think these people were being manipulated by the far right.

http://www.breitbart.com/london/2017/02/16/video-french-police-flee-armed-mob-paris-riots-spread-city-centre/
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« Reply #1 on: February 16, 2017, 10:00:31 PM »

All economic anxiety.
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« Reply #2 on: February 16, 2017, 10:01:43 PM »

Lol.

Before the US elections you had Orlando, cops getting shot in Texas and Louisiana, and a riot every month. Since then? Crickets.

Berkeley should probably do something about those crickets.
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« Reply #3 on: February 16, 2017, 10:09:56 PM »

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« Reply #4 on: February 16, 2017, 10:11:48 PM »

     Given the disaster of the Hollande administration, the current weak state of LR, and the ongoing problems with the European Union, it's no surprise that the far-right has become quite powerful in France. I would caution against underestimating Le Pen.
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« Reply #5 on: February 16, 2017, 10:13:39 PM »

     Given the disaster of the Hollande administration, the current weak state of LR, and the ongoing problems with the European Union, it's no surprise that the far-right has become quite powerful in France. I would caution against underestimating Le Pen.

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left. But like most center-leftists, he is an idiot will probably do nothing and hand the country over to Le Pen.
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« Reply #6 on: February 16, 2017, 10:20:07 PM »

     Given the disaster of the Hollande administration, the current weak state of LR, and the ongoing problems with the European Union, it's no surprise that the far-right has become quite powerful in France. I would caution against underestimating Le Pen.

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left. But like most center-leftists, he is an idiot will probably do nothing and hand the country over to Le Pen.

     French police are not American police. It would be hugely out-of-character for them to behave in such a fashion and violently crack down on rioters.
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« Reply #7 on: February 16, 2017, 10:22:20 PM »

     Given the disaster of the Hollande administration, the current weak state of LR, and the ongoing problems with the European Union, it's no surprise that the far-right has become quite powerful in France. I would caution against underestimating Le Pen.

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left. But like most center-leftists, he is an idiot will probably do nothing and hand the country over to Le Pen.

     French police are not American police. It would be hugely out-of-character for them to behave in such a fashion and violently crack down on rioters.

A lot of hugely out-of-character things have been happening recently. Seriously, he should just seize the moment.
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« Reply #8 on: February 16, 2017, 10:34:02 PM »

Round them up.
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« Reply #9 on: February 16, 2017, 11:22:49 PM »

Le Pen will win. I won't bother explaining why I think this, but Wikileaks is going easy on Macron until the 2nd round after which they will destroy him.
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« Reply #10 on: February 16, 2017, 11:33:21 PM »

Meh, government deserves the rioting, after all it was caused by a person being raped by policemen. There is issues with French policemen since years, yet government did nothing.

It's even illegal to tape or photograph a policeman in France.
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« Reply #11 on: February 17, 2017, 02:48:20 AM »

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left.

god you are deluded
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« Reply #12 on: February 17, 2017, 08:41:11 AM »
« Edited: February 17, 2017, 08:49:40 AM by DavidB. »

Meh, government deserves the rioting, after all it was caused by a person being raped by policemen.
It's usually not the government that's the main victim of such riots. It is ordinary people who own a shop, drive a car or happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

First shoot, then warn. No mercy for these thugs. F**k your rights if you burn down your city. The way we handle riots like these in Europe is pathetic, no wonder that it keeps happening. We've become so weak.
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« Reply #13 on: February 17, 2017, 09:06:54 AM »

42-44% is the ultimate max. that Le Pen will get in the runoff.

Riots, or no riots ...
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« Reply #14 on: February 18, 2017, 05:18:03 AM »

Meh, government deserves the rioting, after all it was caused by a person being raped by policemen.
It's usually not the government that's the main victim of such riots. It is ordinary people who own a shop, drive a car or happen to be in the wrong place at the wrong time.

I am aware, it was trolling. Through, I still think government is partly responsible. I would also add there is not many shops or people driving there randomly, it's slums that makes Ferguson look wealthy and well-integrated and that everyone carefully never get close.
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« Reply #15 on: February 20, 2017, 06:41:49 PM »

     Given the disaster of the Hollande administration, the current weak state of LR, and the ongoing problems with the European Union, it's no surprise that the far-right has become quite powerful in France. I would caution against underestimating Le Pen.

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left. But like most center-leftists, he is an idiot will probably do nothing and hand the country over to Le Pen.

     French police are not American police. It would be hugely out-of-character for them to behave in such a fashion and violently crack down on rioters.

Are you joking or are you this unaware of French police?
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« Reply #16 on: February 20, 2017, 08:30:06 PM »

I mean, the French police is horrible, but to their credit I don't think they shoot unarmed civilians as an everyday pastime.
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« Reply #17 on: February 20, 2017, 11:19:34 PM »

This could be a real opportunity for Hollande. If he really orders the police to go in heavy and start cracking heads, he could have a 9/11-style rally effect and boost the center-left.

god you are deluded

Monday’s daily OpinionWay poll showed that first-round support for anti-euro candidate Le Pen rose 1 percentage point to 27 percent, with Macron and Republican Francois Fillon unchanged at 20 percent each. While no surveys so far have shown Le Pen even close to a victory in May’s run-off, she’s quickly narrowing the gap to her rivals. OpinionWay showed Macron would defeat Le Pen by 58 percent to 42 percent in the second round. His advantage has halved in less than two weeks.

Le Pen is gaining from her tough stance on the disturbances that flared up across France last week during mostly peaceful protests against police brutality.

https://www.bloomberg.com/politics/articles/2017-02-20/le-pen-advances-in-french-polls-as-security-concerns-sway-voters-izef48iu

You guy's incompetence can be seen from a mile away!
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« Reply #18 on: February 20, 2017, 11:23:43 PM »

Le Pen benefiting from this doesn't make your argument any less absurd.
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« Reply #19 on: February 21, 2017, 07:10:32 AM »

Isn't this a sign that Muslims are assimilating to French society though?
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« Reply #20 on: February 21, 2017, 08:23:28 AM »

Isn't this a sign that Muslims are assimilating to French society though?
Muslims were rioting for years before the terrorism in France started.  Worse rioting if I remember correctly.
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« Reply #21 on: February 21, 2017, 09:25:54 AM »

Le Pen benefiting from this doesn't make your argument any less absurd.

How is your man Hamon doing in the polls?
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« Reply #22 on: February 21, 2017, 10:15:17 AM »

Do you know that the riots ended 10 days ago?

If Le Pen gained 1 point in one poll yesterday it has nothing to do with the riots.
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« Reply #23 on: February 21, 2017, 10:33:17 AM »

Do you know that the riots ended 10 days ago?

If Le Pen gained 1 point in one poll yesterday it has nothing to do with the riots.

More like 5 days ago. Le Pen's surge in the OpinionWay run-off poll has been going on for about two weeks.
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« Reply #24 on: February 21, 2017, 10:48:25 AM »

No. There were some minor incidents since then, but the end of the major incidents was around the 12nd February.

Le Pen is stable in a runoff with Fillon (she was at 44% before the riots, she is still at 44%)
Le Pen made some improvement over Macron in one poll (just one poll), due to Macron bad week.
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