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« on: February 18, 2017, 06:36:00 AM »

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« Reply #1 on: February 18, 2017, 06:52:43 AM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
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« Reply #2 on: February 18, 2017, 09:28:12 AM »

This isn't remotely surprising.

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209

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« Reply #3 on: February 18, 2017, 09:56:18 AM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
That's from 2011 and CPI used to take food and oil much more into account. If we used the same measurement in 2015, we'd see huge deflation
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« Reply #4 on: February 18, 2017, 07:30:18 PM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
That's from 2011 and CPI used to take food and oil much more into account. If we used the same measurement in 2015, we'd see huge deflation


Nope, it's around 10% according to the 1980 methodology.



The 1990 methodology has about 6%.

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« Reply #5 on: February 18, 2017, 07:33:37 PM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
That's from 2011 and CPI used to take food and oil much more into account. If we used the same measurement in 2015, we'd see huge deflation


Nope, it's around 10% according to the 1980 methodology.



The 1990 methodology has about 6%.



-Nonsense. If anything, inflation is overestimated. ShadowStats is a bogus website.
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« Reply #6 on: February 18, 2017, 07:35:28 PM »

People who think inflation is 10% don't know what 10% inflation is even remotely like. Nominal GDP growth is less than 5%. Is the U.S. economy shrinking by 5% per year? LOL.
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« Reply #7 on: February 18, 2017, 07:37:39 PM »

The only reason 3-3.5% real growth is somehow doubtful is because of baby boomer aging. But, even under normal productivity growth (not the awful productivity stagnation we've seen in the Age of Obama), these numbers should be attainable.
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« Reply #8 on: February 18, 2017, 08:41:58 PM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
That's from 2011 and CPI used to take food and oil much more into account. If we used the same measurement in 2015, we'd see huge deflation


Nope, it's around 10% according to the 1980 methodology.



The 1990 methodology has about 6%.



-Nonsense. If anything, inflation is overestimated. ShadowStats is a bogus website.

OK, 10% is too much, but the idea that inflation is only 2% is laughable.
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« Reply #9 on: February 18, 2017, 08:51:26 PM »

Easy, just have the CPI be even more cooked than it already is. Inflation is around 10% these days by old methodology, but the government decided it wanted much lower.

http://www.cnbc.com/id/42551209
That's from 2011 and CPI used to take food and oil much more into account. If we used the same measurement in 2015, we'd see huge deflation


Nope, it's around 10% according to the 1980 methodology.



The 1990 methodology has about 6%.



-Nonsense. If anything, inflation is overestimated. ShadowStats is a bogus website.

OK, 10% is too much, but the idea that inflation is only 2% is laughable.

-Not when nominal GDP growth (not even per capita!) is 3%.
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« Reply #10 on: February 19, 2017, 11:11:49 AM »

All you snowflakes giving Donald Trump a bard time:

https://youtu.be/DzgihFZ7QOU

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« Reply #11 on: February 19, 2017, 12:56:15 PM »

For economies at the stage of the United States is, 3
4% growth is extremely rare. Higher growth rates are associated with developing nations. I realize Trump wants this to balance his ridiculous budgets but the assumption was disproven under Reagan and Bush.

Also we're due for a recession as we haven't had one since 2010.

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« Reply #12 on: February 20, 2017, 09:54:53 AM »

The Drumpf Admin is a cooked book. They don’t have to cook the books, they are already. Like they won’t drain the swamp, because they are the swamp.
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« Reply #13 on: February 20, 2017, 10:14:52 AM »

The only economic growth now possible other than from population growth is at most about 2% in  times other than recovery from recessions. We are at the stage at which buying more stuff isn;t going to bring much more happiness. Simply loading more costs upon helpless customers is inflationary. 
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