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« Reply #25 on: February 18, 2017, 04:23:29 PM »

Great job there "conservatives." Anyone who is on board with this, and apparently the GOP power structure is, pretty much destroyed what "conservative" used to mean and replaced it with this bastardized excuse for a political message.
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« Reply #26 on: February 18, 2017, 04:31:50 PM »

Gross. The sudden Republican obsession with "edginess" is getting to be too much. Trump is a lot of fun. Romney, Ryan, McCain, and Jeb! are boring. But that doesn't mean we have to literally get a pro-rape crypto Nazi to speak just because my party is so emotionally invested in pissing off the other side (which, I admit, is a LOT of fun and very tempting after the eight years we just went through)

Glad I'm not the only one noticing this trend among young Republicans. They care more about "pwning liberals and SJWs" than they do any real policy.

There has been a power vacuum in the conservative movement since Bush ed everything up and Trumpism/Right-wing populism has filled it's place. It's as simple as that.

Why else do you think Trump was able to trounce 17 other candidates?
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« Reply #27 on: February 18, 2017, 04:33:28 PM »

The worst part about Milo is that he is beloved by the same young Republicans who hated and still hate Trump. The College Republican types. The ones who wear that douchebag combination of khaki pants with a shirt, tie, and blazer to their weekly meetings.
I would be okay with that, except for the fact that most of them think that boat shoes are acceptable footwear for such a combination. Sad!
Boat shoes are not acceptable anywhere but on a boat imo.

Stupid frat kids should learn to invest in a pair of cordovan loafers. Smiley
Or even some brogues. I mean, I can understand they don't have enough money to buy dress shoes (well, many of them), but they look like gahbage.

If you can't afford to buy dress shoes, should you really be voting Republican?
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« Reply #28 on: February 18, 2017, 04:52:11 PM »

Well why not? He is now the face of the American right!
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« Reply #29 on: February 18, 2017, 05:04:23 PM »

Well the alt-right won. They are the establishment, they have the press credentials. There's nothing edgy about that anymore. They got in at the first opening; it should have been a longer term plan, maybe after 4 years of trolling President Clinton. But here they are. It will fall apart. You can't invest the sort of energy for four months never mind four years.
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« Reply #30 on: February 18, 2017, 05:13:34 PM »

Glad I left the GOP and disavowed any right-wing ideology I held before the loonies took over.
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« Reply #31 on: February 18, 2017, 05:22:07 PM »

Great job there "conservatives." Anyone who is on board with this, and apparently the GOP power structure is, pretty much destroyed what "conservative" used to mean and replaced it with this bastardized excuse for a political message.

Again, Conservatism in America since the 1970s or so has only been about one single thing: protecting the interests and expanding the power of plutocrats.
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« Reply #32 on: February 18, 2017, 05:24:25 PM »

Great job there "conservatives." Anyone who is on board with this, and apparently the GOP power structure is, pretty much destroyed what "conservative" used to mean and replaced it with this bastardized excuse for a political message.

Again, Conservatism in America since the 1970s or so has only been about one single thing: protecting the interests and expanding the power of plutocrats.

What was it before then?
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« Reply #33 on: February 18, 2017, 05:27:07 PM »

Great job there "conservatives." Anyone who is on board with this, and apparently the GOP power structure is, pretty much destroyed what "conservative" used to mean and replaced it with this bastardized excuse for a political message.

Again, Conservatism in America since the 1970s or so has only been about one single thing: protecting the interests and expanding the power of plutocrats.

What was it before then?

Well, it was already in good part about that, but it also paid more than lip service to a genuine set of philosophical principles and a vision of what society should be that wasn't entirely reducible to that single goal. All this went out the window when "movement Conservatives" (rofl) took over.
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« Reply #34 on: February 18, 2017, 05:31:19 PM »

So they are having the racist nazi boy speak.  Embracing the image that they are starting to craft.
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« Reply #35 on: February 18, 2017, 05:33:08 PM »

So they are having the racist nazi boy speak.  Embracing the image that they are starting to craft.

They got Trump as President now Milo as Keynote Speaker....the transition to nationalism is complete.
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« Reply #36 on: February 18, 2017, 05:38:46 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2017, 05:40:29 PM by Tartarus Sauce »


This does a disservice to the history, philosophy, and word "conservative."

It is, nonetheless, the new conservative movement. If the current conservatives wish for this not to happen, more of them need to be putting up a fight. Instead, most seem to either be embracing it or sitting mum on the sidelines.
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« Reply #37 on: February 18, 2017, 05:43:07 PM »

From the principled conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the moral bankruptcy of Milo. Truly the right has given up.
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« Reply #38 on: February 18, 2017, 06:02:13 PM »

It's so strange... but this is Trump's party now. Trump became President because of his "Eff the media, eff political correctness" attitude. So I guess it makes perfect sense. Maybe Trump will change the constitution so he can be our 46th President?
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« Reply #39 on: February 18, 2017, 06:03:28 PM »

Let's face it-most young Republicans at CPAC (the "big government sucks" crowd) dress like twelve year olds at their 28 year old half-sisters wedding. Pwning SWJs is all they got.

I think there needs to be a counter-culture on the right that is intellectual but not elitist that can act as both a vanguard for the most ideological activists and the Trumpletariet alike. CPAC is a great tool but it risks becoming a Paul Ryan nerd prom indoctrinating young right-wingers with outdated ideas in the age of Trump.
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« Reply #40 on: February 18, 2017, 06:07:37 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2017, 06:11:04 PM by Tartarus Sauce »

Let's face it-most young Republicans at CPAC (the "big government sucks" crowd) dress like twelve year olds at their 28 year old half-sisters wedding. Pwning SWJs is all they got.

I think there needs to be a counter-culture on the right that is intellectual but not elitist that can act as both a vanguard for the most ideological activists and the Trumpletariet alike. CPAC is a great tool but it risks becoming a Paul Ryan nerd prom indoctrinating young right-wingers with outdated ideas in the age of Trump.

That's kind of the problem: intellectualism is inherently castigated as elitist by default on the right-wing now. A desire for "non-elitist intellectualism" had no component in the undercurrents that brought Trump to power. Trump and his surrogates cultivate a mindset among their followers that is fundamentally anti-intellectual and more authoritarian/reactionary-minded.
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« Reply #41 on: February 18, 2017, 06:28:47 PM »

Let's face it-most young Republicans at CPAC (the "big government sucks" crowd) dress like twelve year olds at their 28 year old half-sisters wedding. Pwning SWJs is all they got.

I think there needs to be a counter-culture on the right that is intellectual but not elitist that can act as both a vanguard for the most ideological activists and the Trumpletariet alike. CPAC is a great tool but it risks becoming a Paul Ryan nerd prom indoctrinating young right-wingers with outdated ideas in the age of Trump.

That's kind of the problem: intellectualism is inherently castigated as elitist by default on the right-wing now. A desire for "non-elitist intellectualism" had no component in the undercurrents that brought Trump to power. Trump and his surrogates cultivate a mindset among their followers that is fundamentally anti-intellectual and more authoritarian/reactionary-minded.
The problem with the intellectual elite is that they tend to think they're the only people capable of intellectual thought. What the Republican Party needs is "popular philosophers" who don't come from Ivy League backgrounds. Aside from her philosophy itself, Ayn Rand's biggest legacy is the fact that she did not have any significant academic background, yet whose theories were debated, cheered, or smeared by the most prominent thinkers of her time. The GOP doesn't need people like Buckley or his newest incarnation, the post-Reagan movement conservatives. We need a totally new direction, one that restores the traditions of Jeffersonian democracy as our guiding principles.
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« Reply #42 on: February 18, 2017, 07:29:42 PM »
« Edited: February 18, 2017, 07:39:01 PM by Tartarus Sauce »

Let's face it-most young Republicans at CPAC (the "big government sucks" crowd) dress like twelve year olds at their 28 year old half-sisters wedding. Pwning SWJs is all they got.

I think there needs to be a counter-culture on the right that is intellectual but not elitist that can act as both a vanguard for the most ideological activists and the Trumpletariet alike. CPAC is a great tool but it risks becoming a Paul Ryan nerd prom indoctrinating young right-wingers with outdated ideas in the age of Trump.

That's kind of the problem: intellectualism is inherently castigated as elitist by default on the right-wing now. A desire for "non-elitist intellectualism" had no component in the undercurrents that brought Trump to power. Trump and his surrogates cultivate a mindset among their followers that is fundamentally anti-intellectual and more authoritarian/reactionary-minded.
The problem with the intellectual elite is that they tend to think they're the only people capable of intellectual thought. What the Republican Party needs is "popular philosophers" who don't come from Ivy League backgrounds. Aside from her philosophy itself, Ayn Rand's biggest legacy is the fact that she did not have any significant academic background, yet whose theories were debated, cheered, or smeared by the most prominent thinkers of her time. The GOP doesn't need people like Buckley or his newest incarnation, the post-Reagan movement conservatives. We need a totally new direction, one that restores the traditions of Jeffersonian democracy as our guiding principles.

I don't disagree that a form of elitism has developed within much of the intellectual sphere, it certainly has on both the left and right wings. Ironically enough though, Ayn Rand, despite being a philosopher from a non-elitist background, has become gospel within much of the elite conservative intellectual circle. I also find your emphasis on our founding principles a commendable one.

Unfortunately, I think you'll have to wait awhile before a "common man's intellectual" movement arises. Donald Trump will not usher in a vision of restoring our principles of Jeffersonian democracy, he doesn't even know what Jeffersonian Democracy is. He is ignorant of the majority of our founding principles, and those he is not ignorant of he has displayed utter contempt for. Donald Trump is not a common man's intellectual, Donald Trump is a self-centered narcissist exploiting anti-elite sentiments among the population to craft a cult of personality.

The anti-SJW/political correctness, anti-elite movement that has bolstered Trump's rise couldn't care less either. Trump's momentum is drawn from a well of emotional reactionism via a politics of revenge and grievance. That coincides rather well with Trump himself whom, as a narcissist, is also fueled by revenge and grievance. It is a pernicious form of identity politics reacting to another form of identity politics. It's not seeking to set up a venue for "non-elitist intellectuals," it's seeking to purge intellectualism from public discourse entirely and replace it with knee-jerk partisan tribalism.

I think I understand where you misjudged Trump, since you have displayed more critical thought than many of his other supporters. You thought that since the groundswell which he was surfing was anti-elitist, it would also expand intellectual discourse to a greater portion of the population who were being unfairly locked out. I don't think you realized just how deeply anti-intellectual this movement is. Milo/Hannity/Limbaugh or whatever other bloviating talking head that exists solely to screech about liberals and nothing else while collecting filthy fat paychecks, that's the heart and soul of this movement, not the common man's intellectual.
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« Reply #43 on: February 18, 2017, 07:53:02 PM »

Oh boy. Eh. Both sides are catering to their hardcore political fringes.

Really? I don't see the left "catering" to the Michael Moores and Susan Sarandons.

Moore is actually getting more traction these days. He's a good filmmaker though.

Entertaining perhaps, but his documentaries have always been more infotainment than informational.  The most egregious example I remember from Fahrenheit 9/11 was his harping on the Secret Service providing security for the Saudi embassy when they did that for every embassy.
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« Reply #44 on: February 18, 2017, 07:54:24 PM »

This dude is like Liberace with the politics of Joseph Goebbels.  His fifteen minutes of fame are up.
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« Reply #45 on: February 18, 2017, 07:57:55 PM »

From the principled conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the moral bankruptcy of Milo. Truly the right has given up.

And they said Barry was bad in 1964.  It's truly unbelievable how the party of Abraham Lincoln went from the Western principled libertarian-conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the nutty, kooky, loony reality show of Trump and Milo.
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« Reply #46 on: February 18, 2017, 08:21:36 PM »

From the principled conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the moral bankruptcy of Milo. Truly the right has given up.

And they said Barry was bad in 1964.  It's truly unbelievable how the party of Abraham Lincoln went from the Western principled libertarian-conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the nutty, kooky, loony reality show of Trump and Milo.

It actually makes perfect sense when you consider the general public supports most new deal programs and supported Goldwater and Reagan due to their opposition to the civil rights act.

By the way, Goldwater already stood for everything that Lincoln opposed, Lincoln fought a civil war against state's rights.
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« Reply #47 on: February 18, 2017, 08:26:24 PM »

Amusing how people who 50 years were accused of evoking "dangerous signs of Hitlerism" are now held up as principled conservative libertarians in contrast to the new figure inspiring those dissatisfied with leftist cultural rubbish. I suppose in 2070, Socialist politicians will be looking back fondly to principled national conservatives such as Trump and Milo and wondering why contemporary Democratic figures are acting so fascistic in their opposition to compulsory sterilization of uneducated (i.e. not having a post-graduate diploma) whites. Roll Eyes
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« Reply #48 on: February 18, 2017, 08:36:22 PM »

Let's face it-most young Republicans at CPAC (the "big government sucks" crowd) dress like twelve year olds at their 28 year old half-sisters wedding. Pwning SWJs is all they got.

I think there needs to be a counter-culture on the right that is intellectual but not elitist that can act as both a vanguard for the most ideological activists and the Trumpletariet alike. CPAC is a great tool but it risks becoming a Paul Ryan nerd prom indoctrinating young right-wingers with outdated ideas in the age of Trump.

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« Reply #49 on: February 18, 2017, 08:40:09 PM »

From the principled conservatism of Barry Goldwater to the moral bankruptcy of Milo. Truly the right has given up.

And they said Barry was bad in 1964.

Because he was.

"Not as bad as modern conservatives" is a f**king low bar.
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