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« Reply #25 on: February 21, 2017, 11:08:57 AM »

Isn't this, you know, illegal? Wouldn't it qualify as preferential hiring by political ideology?

That's not illegal anywhere in the US except New York, at least for private employers. Since this is the state, though, it's probably a freedom of association issue.
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« Reply #26 on: February 21, 2017, 11:42:01 AM »

If this were the law, then the same could be done for police forces, business schools would have to have half the faculty in favor of more regulations. It's quite the slippery slope.
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« Reply #27 on: February 21, 2017, 03:28:21 PM »

Tabling this bill is the best thing NC Reps have done in living memory.
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« Reply #28 on: February 21, 2017, 03:30:18 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.
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« Reply #29 on: February 21, 2017, 03:31:43 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.

Not even remotely the same thing.
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« Reply #30 on: February 21, 2017, 03:38:17 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.

i am not saying, i am not supporting it.

i am saying, it shows the hypocrisy of the critics in the most silly way.
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« Reply #31 on: February 21, 2017, 03:51:38 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.
There isn't anything to laugh at.
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« Reply #32 on: February 21, 2017, 09:10:40 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.

The idea is to make colleges reflect the opinions of the GOP majority in 2017. Republicans would be wise to scrap this idea because it will

(1) do nothing to improve the quality of education,
(2) will saddle the universities with professors who get few students
(3) will eventually lead to protests when the political climate changes

I prefer that colleges be comparatively placid places where people do real teaching, learning, and research... and not arenas for pitched battles of ideology. 

Ho9w do we know what the political climate will be four years from now?
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« Reply #33 on: February 21, 2017, 11:15:40 PM »
« Edited: February 21, 2017, 11:20:46 PM by Senator PiT »

     I oppose affirmative action as a matter of principle, though the severe ideological imbalance in academia is an ongoing problem.
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« Reply #34 on: February 21, 2017, 11:20:22 PM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.

     It really shows the ignorance of the values of the liberal society that has descended upon us. Diversity is valuable for the variety of ideas it brings to the table. There is no sense in supporting some diversity measures while opposing one that directly contributes to the diversity of ideas.
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« Reply #35 on: February 21, 2017, 11:22:58 PM »

I oppose affirmative action as a matter of principle, though the severe ideological imbalance in academia is an ongoing problem.

There is no sense in supporting some diversity measures while opposing one that directly contributes to the diversity of ideas.

Aren't you kinda contradicting yourself there?
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« Reply #36 on: February 21, 2017, 11:29:44 PM »

I oppose affirmative action as a matter of principle, though the severe ideological imbalance in academia is an ongoing problem.

There is no sense in supporting some diversity measures while opposing one that directly contributes to the diversity of ideas.

Aren't you kinda contradicting yourself there?

     I oppose such measures because as a libertarian I am against artificially forcing what can and should happen organically through the removal of prejudicial barriers. With that said, I understand the theoretical and practical benefits of diversity to an institution. The overriding focus on demographic diversity (which is just one form) has obscured many of the more cogent arguments in favor of pursuing diverse composition.
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« Reply #37 on: February 22, 2017, 12:03:49 AM »

LOL this is the most absurd policy proposal I've read in my entire life!
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« Reply #38 on: February 22, 2017, 04:57:55 AM »

Something to consider: political conservatives generally trust for-profit entities much more than do political liberals. Conservatives are more likely to seek careers in for-profit activities that many liberals find abhorrent. Liberals tend to steer by default to academia (whether colleges or K-12 education), the professions, and the civil service.

Are conservatives as well suited for academia by temperament? Some are. Not enough, though.   
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« Reply #39 on: February 22, 2017, 05:35:45 AM »

I dont think you should tell professors what political party they need to be to get a job.

That is absurd.

Most Republicans will be physicists and mathematicians.

Most Democrats will be political scientists and lawyers.

A gross generalization, but something that I have briefly noticed in my time on Atlas.
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« Reply #40 on: February 22, 2017, 06:02:56 AM »
« Edited: February 22, 2017, 06:04:50 AM by Alex »

That is absurd.

Most Republicans will be physicists and mathematicians.

Most Democrats will be political scientists and lawyers.

No


A gross generalization, but something that I have briefly noticed in my time on Atlas.

LOL
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« Reply #41 on: February 22, 2017, 06:15:15 AM »

Bad idea. A better idea is to more carefully make sure professors arent allowing their bias to negatively impact students. Such as a teacher marking down students because their views or using class to bash viewpoints.

I dont think it is all that common and just the few incidents get embelleshed. Like most things with politicians they are just trying to use laws to fix problems that dont exist just like they did with the whole transgender thing.

I never had issue with professors. I was very conservative in college and in fact my favorite professor was definitely liberal although it never impacted class.
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« Reply #42 on: February 22, 2017, 06:52:41 AM »

If can get liberal theologians in conservative Christian colleges there might be an upside!

But no, we know that's not what they mean.
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« Reply #43 on: February 22, 2017, 07:41:40 AM »

Lol @ liberals supporting AA but not this.

     It really shows the ignorance of the values of the liberal society that has descended upon us. Diversity is valuable for the variety of ideas it brings to the table. There is no sense in supporting some diversity measures while opposing one that directly contributes to the diversity of ideas.

Corporate America has a captive audience for political propaganda of its choosing among anyone who works in the for-profit sector. "Tax reductions for shareholders, a national right-to-work law, abolition of the minimum wage, tort reform, etc. will create more jobs and hence opportunities here" is about what I would expect -- and it is all in line with the Reactionary Party.

College students who have held a job in a fast-food place or retail store are already exposed to the propaganda of the American Right -- from their employers.

 
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