Lefties and left-of-center people: Who do you support in the French election?

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

If it's any consolation, there is like one nuclear plant in the whole of the Netherlands and it provides less than 5% of Dutch electricity. So it's not like a pro- or anti-nuclear party will matter very much in that respect (especially as even if you elect the most pro-nuclear power party on earth, it will take about eight decades to build given the amusing failures of all new builds going on).

I already tried to explain this, but to no avail. Anyway, no person with "radical and extremely far left" politics would vote for the party that increasingly often out-right-wings the VVD on economic issues.

BRAKING NEWS: Single issue voters are not exclusive to the Christian Right

[DavidB.]

If it's any consolation, there is like one nuclear plant in the whole of the Netherlands and it provides less than 5% of Dutch electricity. So it's not like a pro- or anti-nuclear party will matter very much in that respect (especially as even if you elect the most pro-nuclear power party on earth, it will take about eight decades to build given the amusing failures of all new builds going on).

I already tried to explain this, but to no avail. Anyway, no person with "radical and extremely far left" politics would vote for the party that increasingly often out-right-wings the VVD on economic issues.

BRAKING NEWS: Single issue voters are not exclusive to the Christian Right

The thing is: there are no actual pro-nuclear single-issue voters in the Netherlands. There will be no new nuclear power plant.

Anyway, voted Hamon in the poll.

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David you must be the only PVV/Benoit Hamon voter in the world lol.

[Sprouts Farmers Market ✘]

David you must be the only PVV/Benoit Hamon voter in the world lol.

Ahem.

[Beet]

1) Hamon
2) Melehcon



Better than the horribles and the jokers) Macron
basically equal in horribleness) Fillon and Le Pen

gun to my head if its a Fillon and Le Pen run-off, I may have to vote Le Pen because she'd basically be powerless since I doubt National Front has a chance of gaining a substantial coalition in government.

That's what they said about Trump.

[Maxwell]

1) Hamon
2) Melehcon



Better than the horribles and the jokers) Macron
basically equal in horribleness) Fillon and Le Pen

gun to my head if its a Fillon and Le Pen run-off, I may have to vote Le Pen because she'd basically be powerless since I doubt National Front has a chance of gaining a substantial coalition in government.

That's what they said about Trump.

are you illiterate?

how about literally the words right next to those words?

Trump has a major political party with control of every lever of power under his control.

the situation could not be more different in the case of National Front.

[Beet]

1) Hamon
2) Melehcon



Better than the horribles and the jokers) Macron
basically equal in horribleness) Fillon and Le Pen

gun to my head if its a Fillon and Le Pen run-off, I may have to vote Le Pen because she'd basically be powerless since I doubt National Front has a chance of gaining a substantial coalition in government.

That's what they said about Trump.

are you illiterate?

how about literally the words right next to those words?

Trump has a major political party with control of every lever of power under his control.

the situation could not be more different in the case of National Front.

Thanks for responding: When I was phone banking during the election, I had a progressive Democrat tell me she was voting for Trump because the Congressional Republicans would never listen to him. Remember, back then people thought Ryan would be 100% anti-Trump and that meant the presidency was powerless.

[Kingpoleon]

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[Unconditional Surrender Truman]

I support whoever has the best chance of defeating Le Pen and keeping Fillon out of the runoff. I won't pretend to know enough about French politics to judge who that is.

[pikachu]

Hamon in the first round, and anyone but Le Pen in the second. My knowledge of French politics is limited, but I struggle to get a positive impression from Macron, whose policies don't look to be meaningfully different from Hollande, and I have strong doubts on his ability to get his agenda through.

[Antonio the Sixth]

1) Hamon
2) Melehcon



Better than the horribles and the jokers) Macron
basically equal in horribleness) Fillon and Le Pen

gun to my head if its a Fillon and Le Pen run-off, I may have to vote Le Pen because she'd basically be powerless since I doubt National Front has a chance of gaining a substantial coalition in government.

That's what they said about Trump.

are you illiterate?

how about literally the words right next to those words?

Trump has a major political party with control of every lever of power under his control.

the situation could not be more different in the case of National Front.

Thanks for responding: When I was phone banking during the election, I had a progressive Democrat tell me she was voting for Trump because the Congressional Republicans would never listen to him. Remember, back then people thought Ryan would be 100% anti-Trump and that meant the presidency was powerless.

That's not really comparable to a Le Pen + LR majority cohabitation, though. LR would have no interest in Le Pen succeeding with her agenda (or at least the parts of it on which they disagree), whereas T***p and Ryan's political fates are tied together.

[Beet]

1) Hamon
2) Melehcon



Better than the horribles and the jokers) Macron
basically equal in horribleness) Fillon and Le Pen

gun to my head if its a Fillon and Le Pen run-off, I may have to vote Le Pen because she'd basically be powerless since I doubt National Front has a chance of gaining a substantial coalition in government.

That's what they said about Trump.

are you illiterate?

how about literally the words right next to those words?

Trump has a major political party with control of every lever of power under his control.

the situation could not be more different in the case of National Front.

Thanks for responding: When I was phone banking during the election, I had a progressive Democrat tell me she was voting for Trump because the Congressional Republicans would never listen to him. Remember, back then people thought Ryan would be 100% anti-Trump and that meant the presidency was powerless.

That's not really comparable to a Le Pen + LR majority cohabitation, though. LR would have no interest in Le Pen succeeding with her agenda (or at least the parts of it on which they disagree), whereas T***p and Ryan's political fates are tied together.

Not really. The best case for Ryan is Trump is impeached and Pence becomes president.

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The trouble with the "impotent powerless Le Pen" theory is that I presume Le Pen will make every effort to hobble the parliamentary aspects of France by really testing the constitution. Heck, PS have laid the carpet for such a move, with their endless state of emergency. I wouldn't be surprised if she makes Erdogan like attempts to change the constitution to turn France into a full presidential system.

[Antonio the Sixth]

The trouble with the "impotent powerless Le Pen" theory is that I presume Le Pen will make every effort to hobble the parliamentary aspects of France by really testing the constitution. Heck, PS have laid the carpet for such a move, with their endless state of emergency. I wouldn't be surprised if she makes Erdogan like attempts to change the constitution to turn France into a full presidential system.

That's a very valid concern to have, especially since De Gaulle provided the unfortunate constitutional precedent of the President modifying the Constitution by Referendum without actually respecting the amending procedure (mostly because the Constitutional Council was a rump at the time). That said, I'm hoping that the CC would be more willing to stand up to a Le Pen presidency, considering they'd all be PS and LR appointees.

[Illiniwek]

Macron is my guy. He seems to be by far the closest to me ideologically.

[JA]

I'd vote for Jean-Luc Mélenchon. At this point, unfortunately, unless Mélenchon or Hamon dropout to endorse the other, I can't foresee either of them making it into the second round.

If it comes down to Macron vs Le Pen, I'd hold my breath and vote Macron. If it comes down to Fillon vs Le Pen, I couldn't see myself voting for either.

[DavidB.]

David you must be the only PVV/Benoit Hamon voter in the world lol.

Oh I wouldn't actually vote for Hamon (would be inclined to vote for Dupont-Aignan in the first round), I voted for him in this poll because it only includes candidates on the left -- and I like him better than all the others on the left.

[windjammer]

Hamon, I would'nt vote for any Macron, Fillon or Le Pen, all are trash.

[Slow Learner]

All the way with Benoit.

[YL]

My first choice would be Hamon.  However, if the polls still look like they do right now, I think I'd have to be tempted to vote Macron in the hope of having a non-ghastly candidate in the run-off.

[Vosem]

Even as a right-of-center voter, my vote in the first round of this election would be cast for Macron.

[ApatheticAustrian]

macron, no contest.

i am sick of right-wingers holding their nose and left-wingers always playing "holier than thou"-characters.

fillon wanted to "screw" the left in a hostage situation...let him feel the consequences.

[Antonio the Sixth]

i am sick of right-wingers holding their nose and left-wingers always playing "holier than thou"-characters.

Yeah, how dare left-wingers want a left-wing candidate...

All the way with Benoit.

There are some good potential slogans in French:

Benoît, on y croit!
Benoît, c'est mon choix!
Benoît, on est tous avec toi!

[justfollowingtheelections]

I'll let you guess who I am supporting:

[they don't love you like i love you]

Hamon.

But if Macron made the runoff and I were French I'd yell things like "MON ROI EST VIVANT" in reference to him.