ok everyone, here are the screenshots from the thread to prove adam's trolling.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

After Dfw deleted the thread, I still had it on a tab and screen capped it at his request. The rather obvious Windows XP taskbar should be a dead give way.


This was everything that was remaining in the thread before it was removed completely.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Actually it was NeverAGain's Google Doc for the House Rules that saved the tab. It had opened on the other side of that, separated from the other Atlasia tab(s) and therefore I did not see it, until two hours later.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griff, give it a rest. Please.

I refuse to "go along to get along" on important matters such as these; perhaps I am the product of a bygone era where strong ethical standards for our Presidents, clear consistency among candidates between their public/private statements and a clear delineation of ideologies and parties were the norm. VERY SAD to see my Party lose its backbone - especially on foreign policy. No wonder we don't win anymore! With regard to this particular subject, however:

I, for one, will continue my years-long tradition of standing up to and opposing massive expansions in the MIC and aggressive posturing on the foreign stage, regardless of what you, my Party, or anyone else thinks.

Griffin winning the South? He couldn't beat JCL there, so I highly doubt Cris loses it considering it is more conservative now then it was in February. Of course it is also more Libertarian and Griffin has a long history of winning over libertarians.

As Senator, I will introduce legislation that ensures cross-regional cooperation on the matter can occur, that regions and the federal government have access to the intelligence resources that they need, and will do so in a libertarian-friendly way that ensures our civil liberties are not encroached upon.

I could go on and on, but this issue is a serious issue for me and I will be a needle in the eye of anyone who tries to erode our civil liberties - as I always have been.

This election was Atlasia version of 1980. Where the Conservatives not only captured the presidency but one house of congress too. This election hopefully means the liberal era in Atlasia is over

beep boop

Can we please not do this?

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Griff, give it a rest. Please.

I refuse to "go along to get along" on important matters such as these; perhaps I am the product of a bygone era where strong ethical standards for our Presidents, clear consistency among candidates between their public/private statements and a clear delineation of ideologies and parties were the norm. VERY SAD to see my Party lose its backbone - especially on foreign policy. No wonder we don't win anymore! With regard to this particular subject, however:

I, for one, will continue my years-long tradition of standing up to and opposing massive expansions in the MIC and aggressive posturing on the foreign stage, regardless of what you, my Party, or anyone else thinks.

Griffin winning the South? He couldn't beat JCL there, so I highly doubt Cris loses it considering it is more conservative now then it was in February. Of course it is also more Libertarian and Griffin has a long history of winning over libertarians.

As Senator, I will introduce legislation that ensures cross-regional cooperation on the matter can occur, that regions and the federal government have access to the intelligence resources that they need, and will do so in a libertarian-friendly way that ensures our civil liberties are not encroached upon.

I could go on and on, but this issue is a serious issue for me and I will be a needle in the eye of anyone who tries to erode our civil liberties - as I always have been.

This election was Atlasia version of 1980. Where the Conservatives not only captured the presidency but one house of congress too. This election hopefully means the liberal era in Atlasia is over

Atlasia politics will likely never be as conservative as RL, because we are internet based. All this discussion of Libertarians voting emphasizes that point. There are far more libertarians and far less social conservatives, so the right is by that score much less conservative socially than in real life. But it goes beyond just that. The lack of a solidly conservative base of similar size, means that there is a large population of moderates who each want their own thing emphasized.


Dfw's entire margin of victory was made up by defecting laborites and far left indies who had grown weary of Labor for whatever reason (Al, Hashemite etc). Dfw promised a reduction in regulations and the deficit, and a drawn back foreign policy, but also healthcare containing a sliding scale subsidy and infrastructure rebuilding. Activity was another big draw to voters, as dfw has been active consistently throughout his entire eight months in the game as Southern Delegate, House Member, Senator and Governor. 

As for the House, voters who voted to put me in the House included RL liberals/Democrats like Mr. X, TexasGurl and Miles. The same is true for Ted and for Potus. Our Coalitions were very diverse ideologically and we would have never won the House without that cross-over pull. My campaign was center-right populist pledging action on infrastructure, reinstating a modernized Glass-Steagal while simplifying other regulations and removing many and passing Scott's or a similar healthcare bill.

This election is more like a reverse 1992 than a 1980. Which considering dfw's youth, Bill Clinton is another rather apt comparison, though JFK is better when you consider (ironically) the relative experience and older age of the VP.

One clear historical example people have to keep in mind is June 2014, when Labor won the Presidency by five votes over a TPP/DR ticket, with 11 out of 40 Federalist Voters casting votes for the Laborite to be President (we didn't have anyone available to run, RL is a pain sometimes). That was one time Labor a dash for populist right and not libertarians (makes sense since the other ticket had a libertarian on it). One month later they put one of their most extreme members in charge of the Senate and nearly passed a bill nationalizing power companies. Needless to say those 11 Federalists regretted their votes. Labor was devastated in the August midterm elections, putting a coalition of Feds, DRs, and TPPers in charge of the Senate.

We will pass many conservative things, but we will also honor the promises we campaigned on, especially to those voters who decided the election.

 Now that doesn't mean it always has to be this way. Building up a larger conservative vote, would pull the spectrum more towards the right, and one of the reasons I am pushing for the caucuses to organize is so they can play a role in organizing and recruiting new people into the party and holding civic events, and other actions as well as playing a role in the platform process and having influence in the House Conference through the caucuses nominating priority candidates for their members to focus on in elections.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

Yankee you're pretty much begging me to put the Bentsen quote in there

Dfw is not Dan Quayle

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

What's to stop him from becoming so sleep-deprived that he begins to believe it's spelled potatoe?

We doctor the potato with sleeping pills and make him eat it.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

One clear historical example people have to keep in mind is June 2014, when Labor won the Presidency by five votes over a TPP/DR ticket, with 11 out of 40 Federalist Voters casting votes for the Laborite to be President (we didn't have anyone available to run, RL is a pain sometimes). That was one time Labor a dash for populist right and not libertarians (makes sense since the other ticket had a libertarian on it). One month later they put one of their most extreme members in charge of the Senate and nearly passed a bill nationalizing power companies. Needless to say those 11 Federalists regretted their votes. Labor was devastated in the August midterm elections, putting a coalition of Feds, DRs, and TPPers in charge of the Senate.

Weirdly enough, I was one of those 11. I don't recall why I voted the way I did, but I remember that Sirnick was pretty pissed at me and wouldn't drop the subject for quite a while.

I liked DemPGH a lot. I worked with him when we was VP and I was PPT. I also liked working with Windjammer for the short time that he was VP and was impressed with his work in the Midwest.

If anyone had reason to vote for DemPGH it would have been me. However, I knew that as long as TNF remained an untouchable god within labor and also remained the center of the Labor Senate caucus, putting them in charge of the Senate (by electing a Labor ticket to break the tie), meant that it would get sacrificed at the altar of Labor partisanship. They had several people far more suitable for the position, even Griffin himself at points and yet insisted on foisting a extremist into the position, a position that calls for level headed stability not wild extremism and erratic behavior.

[Southern Senator North Carolina Yankee]

One clear historical example people have to keep in mind is June 2014, when Labor won the Presidency by five votes over a TPP/DR ticket, with 11 out of 40 Federalist Voters casting votes for the Laborite to be President (we didn't have anyone available to run, RL is a pain sometimes). That was one time Labor a dash for populist right and not libertarians (makes sense since the other ticket had a libertarian on it). One month later they put one of their most extreme members in charge of the Senate and nearly passed a bill nationalizing power companies. Needless to say those 11 Federalists regretted their votes. Labor was devastated in the August midterm elections, putting a coalition of Feds, DRs, and TPPers in charge of the Senate.

You guys didn't lose because there was no Federalist on the ticket; most people (including Federalists) don't care much for the party, obviously - SAD. The reasons for those defections (and more broadly speaking, on the right as a whole) was that Windjammer was in many ways a social conservative and was able to appeal largely to a disaffected pro-life electorate that resented the fact that the Right ran two libertarians for P/VP. That is why most right-wingers who voted for us in that contest did so, along with the fact that Jambles was arguably as good of a campaigner as I (maybe better).

One month later they put one of their most extreme members in charge of the Senate and nearly passed a bill nationalizing power companies. Needless to say those 11 Federalists regretted their votes. Labor was devastated in the August midterm elections, putting a coalition of Feds, DRs, and TPPers in charge of the Senate.

And then we swept the October regional elections to recover our regional seats while we walked over your corpses and rounded out December with all five Senate seats intact, all the while stealing your most reliable region out from under your noses. 2014 was a hell of a ride! Definitely the most volatile in both presidential and senatorial elections in recent history.

Labor recovered? No kidding! My point was about electoral mandates.

I found 2015 to be more fun. Especially working with a certain annoying Georgian.