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Question: How does Hillary Clinton's concession speech rank among historic general election concession speeches?
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« Reply #125 on: August 30, 2017, 08:07:37 PM »

I forgot how standard GOP positions have magically become secret "liberalism"

In 2012, the GOP Establishment nominated the guy who invented Obamacare and recently has admitted he wanted it to stay.

One thing that worried me is I knew the GOP Establishment never had any intentions of repealing Obamacare, and I was proven right. They virtue signal for votes then backstab us afterwards. That's why we told them to F off and elected Trump instead.
...and what did you get instead?  The most ineffective President since Jimmy Carter who killed whatever tiny sliver of a chance the GOP Congress had to repeal Obamacare.
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« Reply #126 on: August 30, 2017, 08:14:46 PM »

1. I didn't know you were now a leftist.
2. Are you pro-carbon tax?
3. Shutting down air travel would cripple the american economy for little gain.
4. Stealing cigarettes should not earn a death penalty.
5. Really? Abortion, affirmative action, healthcare, gay marriage, social security, prison policy, the 2nd amendment, tax rates for the wealthy, the size of the military, voter registration, green energy, and marijuana are what now?
6. Obama has at no point said that.
7. If you roll a fair die, and someone says it probably won't roll a 6, and you say it certainly will, you are wrong,  even if it did. You didn't outpredict pundits, you were stupid and lucky.

Remember the Clinton campaign sent this photo to Drudge? A picture of him in Islamic garb sent by "stressed Clinton staffers" during Obama's surge:

http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/politics/2016/07/07/photo-obama-in-muslim-garb-shows-deep-ties-to-faith-oreilly-says/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-5/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1467920479674.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

The Obama campaign 100% believed her campaign was the one who sent this photo/started rumors of Obama not "having American roots" or "being a secret Muslim."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/trailhead/2008/02/25/obama_gets_dressed.html

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Hillary Clinton when asked by Steve Kroft if Obama is a Muslim: "No no no! There's nothing to base on... as far as I know."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton-supporters.html

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As mentioned before, Obama blamed HER for these rumors/pictures. Thus, I take what Obama says over fake "fact checking" organizations.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/01/29/the-moment-obama-knew-he-would-beat-hillary-clinton-for-the-2008-nomination/

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Clinton invented birtherism.
So, you have a quote from an obama that Clinton got mad when Obama said she was responsible for a staffer implying he was muslim. You then use that as proof that Obama said Clinton was the originial birther. That's an impressive jump.
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« Reply #127 on: August 31, 2017, 06:12:14 PM »
« Edited: August 31, 2017, 06:58:39 PM by ahugecat »

So, you have a quote from an obama that Clinton got mad when Obama said she was responsible for a staffer implying he was muslim. You then use that as proof that Obama said Clinton was the originial birther. That's an impressive jump.

She of course used surrogates so she could have plausible deniability, but it was her staffers who started the rumors he had no American roots/was Muslim.

Plus, Obama has lied/been so secret about his past who knows what is true? Birtherism is more credible than Russiagate IMO.

ETA: This is getting a little off topic so I will relate it to her concession - Hillary isn't known for going down without a fight, so no doubt she had breakdowns on election night. Remember she didn't even want to concede to Obama? She delayed it by a couple days and even brought up RFK's unfortunate assassination as hope to her.
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« Reply #128 on: August 31, 2017, 07:58:10 PM »

LOL- Outside of Republican wet dreams, Hillary did not have a "meltdown." The campaign actually knew it was in trouble when it massively increased spending in WI and MI the week before the election and sent Obama to MI. The rank and file were more surprised than campaign HQ- but not I. If anything, Republicans are the ones who've had a meltdown over being denied their precious chance to see an election night concession... Which frankly is the only vindication needed of the decision not to give one.

Yet they weren't concerned enough to actually visit WI?
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« Reply #129 on: September 03, 2017, 05:07:09 AM »

1. I didn't know you were now a leftist.
2. Are you pro-carbon tax?
3. Shutting down air travel would cripple the american economy for little gain.
4. Stealing cigarettes should not earn a death penalty.
5. Really? Abortion, affirmative action, healthcare, gay marriage, social security, prison policy, the 2nd amendment, tax rates for the wealthy, the size of the military, voter registration, green energy, and marijuana are what now?
6. Obama has at no point said that.
7. If you roll a fair die, and someone says it probably won't roll a 6, and you say it certainly will, you are wrong,  even if it did. You didn't outpredict pundits, you were stupid and lucky.

Remember the Clinton campaign sent this photo to Drudge? A picture of him in Islamic garb sent by "stressed Clinton staffers" during Obama's surge:

http://a57.foxnews.com/images.foxnews.com/content/fox-news/politics/2016/07/07/photo-obama-in-muslim-garb-shows-deep-ties-to-faith-oreilly-says/_jcr_content/article-text/article-par-5/images/image.img.jpg/880/558/1467920479674.jpg?ve=1&tl=1

The Obama campaign 100% believed her campaign was the one who sent this photo/started rumors of Obama not "having American roots" or "being a secret Muslim."

https://www.theguardian.com/world/2008/feb/25/barackobama.hillaryclinton

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http://www.slate.com/blogs/trailhead/2008/02/25/obama_gets_dressed.html

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Hillary Clinton when asked by Steve Kroft if Obama is a Muslim: "No no no! There's nothing to base on... as far as I know."

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LHFREDHB-nQ

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/barackobama/8478044/Birther-row-began-with-Hillary-Clinton-supporters.html

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As mentioned before, Obama blamed HER for these rumors/pictures. Thus, I take what Obama says over fake "fact checking" organizations.

www.washingtonpost.com/news/book-party/wp/2015/01/29/the-moment-obama-knew-he-would-beat-hillary-clinton-for-the-2008-nomination/

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Clinton invented birtherism.
So, you have a quote from an obama that Clinton got mad when Obama said she was responsible for a staffer implying he was muslim. You then use that as proof that Obama said Clinton was the originial birther. That's an impressive jump.
It's a jump people can believe.  Most folks believe that Trump's "Birtherism" was a hamhanded sideshow that was part of politics.  Most folks view Hillary as calculating; as one who would use surrogates to screw over a rival while maintaining plausible deniability.

Hillaristas are in massive denial over the fact that there are tangible reasons people hate her so passionately.  And they're in massive denial over the fact that she staffs her campaigns with the kind of smarmy folks who specialize in screwing folks over while maintaining plausible deniability.  Let's get real; this is a person who's minions seriously discussed a "Catholic Spring" movement to infiltrate the Catholic Church and pressure it to become more conforming to "progressive" dogma.  That's Podesta and Palmieri, Hillary's Bobsey Twins.  Thanks to Wikileaks, we know this.  That's why the Hillary Crowd are so out of joint; they were exposed for the malevolent folks they are during the 2016 campaign.  THEY no longer have "plausible deniability" about their character. 
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« Reply #130 on: September 08, 2017, 10:53:43 PM »
« Edited: September 08, 2017, 10:56:33 PM by ahugecat »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7A3ivcnXo

At the 12:30 minute mark, Clinton pretty much talks about how she was too devastated and even struggled a bit to do her morning concession speech (as I said).

Hell she nearly cries recounting that fateful day.

She was completely shook and incapable of giving a concession speech that night. It was never going to happen even if Trump won at 11:30PM instead of 2:30AM.

Also she's been getting heavily into religion lately: this defeat has REALLY messed her up. So she's trying to find comfort in religion (like what convicts often do).
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« Reply #131 on: September 08, 2017, 11:07:03 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7A3ivcnXo

At the 12:30 minute mark, Clinton pretty much talks about how she was too devastated and even struggled a bit to do her morning concession speech (as I said).

Hell she nearly cries recounting that fateful day.

She was completely shook and incapable of giving a concession speech that night. It was never going to happen even if Trump won at 11:30PM instead of 2:30AM.

Also she's been getting heavily into religion lately: this defeat has REALLY messed her up. So she's trying to find comfort in religion (like what convicts often do).
Clinton has been religious for a while.
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« Reply #132 on: September 08, 2017, 11:46:06 PM »

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zU7A3ivcnXo

At the 12:30 minute mark, Clinton pretty much talks about how she was too devastated and even struggled a bit to do her morning concession speech (as I said).

Hell she nearly cries recounting that fateful day.

She was completely shook and incapable of giving a concession speech that night. It was never going to happen even if Trump won at 11:30PM instead of 2:30AM.

Also she's been getting heavily into religion lately: this defeat has REALLY messed her up. So she's trying to find comfort in religion (like what convicts often do).
Clinton has been religious for a while.

Not like this though.
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« Reply #133 on: September 10, 2017, 11:13:41 AM »
« Edited: September 10, 2017, 11:15:32 AM by ahugecat »

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Oh wow, she DIDN'T draft a concession speech. So add that to reason number 4 she didn't concede on election night.

1. She was physically unable (too drunk? sleepy? shocked? inconsolable? sedated?)
2. She didn't want to concede under the glass ceiling and above a blue USA map
3. She wanted to fight the results

and now: 4. She didn't have a concession speech ready.

You know everyone keeps saying I don't know what went on yet everything I have said has been proven right. The thing about being a Trump supporter is that you're always right and anti-Trumpers are always wrong. It's like a new law now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-what-happened-sunday-morning-jane-pauley/

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At least she's being somewhat honest now. I may actually read her new book.
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« Reply #134 on: September 11, 2017, 07:11:09 PM »

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Oh wow, she DIDN'T draft a concession speech. So add that to reason number 4 she didn't concede on election night.

1. She was physically unable (too drunk? sleepy? shocked? inconsolable? sedated?)
2. She didn't want to concede under the glass ceiling and above a blue USA map
3. She wanted to fight the results

and now: 4. She didn't have a concession speech ready.

You know everyone keeps saying I don't know what went on yet everything I have said has been proven right. The thing about being a Trump supporter is that you're always right and anti-Trumpers are always wrong. It's like a new law now.

https://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-clinton-what-happened-sunday-morning-jane-pauley/

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At least she's being somewhat honest now. I may actually read her new book.
You still haven't presented any evidence for half of your reasons.
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