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[heatcharger]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

[Virginiá]

It would not have swung the election.

I don't understand. I went to WI/MI/PA's pages and added Stein's percentage of the vote to Clinton's, and it put Clinton over the top in each state. Giving all Stein's votes to Clinton would have swung the election to her.

Not saying she is entitled to those votes, but what you said is false.

[GoTfan]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

You're missing the point. Gore and Hillary did not earn their votes. They didn't excite their base, which you need to do in America. Nader and Stein did earn those votes.

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I hope all those midwestern Jill Stein voters feel happy with themselves.

Why would they be happy that one of the 2 major party candidates who was too terrible to vote for won?

[heatcharger]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

You're missing the point. Gore and Hillary did not earn their votes. They didn't excite their base, which you need to do in America. Nader and Stein did earn those votes.

But that wasn't your point. Your point was not to blame Stein voters because it wouldn't have made a difference if they had voted for Clinton or not... when in the fact-based world we live in, it did.

[Person Man]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

You're missing the point. Gore and Hillary did not earn their votes. They didn't excite their base, which you need to do in America. Nader and Stein did earn those votes.

Yeah. Kerry was supposed to win when Gore's 48% joined Nader's 2.5% and deliver Ohio, Florida, New Hampshire, and maybe even Nevada. Kerry was supposed to win 315 votes!! He won 252. Guess what happened instead? Nader's people stayed home and some Gore voters switched over to vote for War President Bush.

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If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

You're missing the point. Gore and Hillary did not earn their votes. They didn't excite their base, which you need to do in America. Nader and Stein did earn those votes.

But that wasn't your point. Your point was not to blame Stein voters because it wouldn't have made a difference if they had voted for Clinton or not... when in the fact-based world we live in, it did.

It's not even clear that Stein cost Hillary Michigan, and she didn't cost Hillary Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.

[heatcharger]

It's not even clear that Stein cost Hillary Michigan, and she didn't cost Hillary Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.

lol: https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

[Devout Centrist]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

It would not have swung the election.

No one's entitled to votes, correct.

That being said, Stein supporters are as bad as Trump supporters in how dense they are.

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It's not even clear that Stein cost Hillary Michigan, and she didn't cost Hillary Wisconsin or Pennsylvania.

lol: https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

Let me guess, you were allocating 100% of Stein voters to Hillary?

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

If all Jill Stein voters voted for Hillary, she still would've lost.

Um... https://uselectionatlas.org/RESULTS/index.html

One other thing I forgot to add, but I'll add it now because it seems relevant . . . Hillary was not entitled to votes. Stop acting like she was entitled. She didn't earn those votes. It goes the same for Ralph Nader in 2000; he earned he votes for him and Gore didn't.

I didn't say anything about that. It's just literally not true that she would've lost if Stein voters had voted for Hillary.

And I'm sure the people who voted their conscience for Nader and Stein are very happy they stopped corporate neoliberals like Gore and Clinton to get Bush and Trump instead.

Back in 2000, I voted for Nader, but even if all third parties had been purged from the ballot, it would have been Bush, not Gore who would have gotten my vote.  I definitely wasn't voting for Gore that year and Bush never managed to seal the deal with me so I voted third party as a protest against two lackluster choices.  The idea that all the voters for Stein and Nader are uberliberals who would have voted Democratic if there had been no Green Party is sheer nonsense.  Not only that, but the presence of third parties likely made it a closer election than it otherwise would have been.  Without Johnson and McMullin, Trump certainly would have gained New Hampshire and maybe Minnesota.  Trump might have even won the popular vote, and at least kept the margin in the popular vote down to the size of his inauguration crowd.

[heatcharger]

Back in 2000, I voted for Nader, but even if all third parties had been purged from the ballot, it would have been Bush, not Gore who would have gotten my vote.  I definitely wasn't voting for Gore that year and Bush never managed to seal the deal with me so I voted third party as a protest against two lackluster choices.  The idea that all the voters for Stein and Nader are uberliberals who would have voted Democratic if there had been no Green Party is sheer nonsense.  Not only that, but the presence of third parties likely made it a closer election than it otherwise would have been.  Without Johnson and McMullin, Trump certainly would have gained New Hampshire and maybe Minnesota.  Trump might have even won the popular vote, and at least kept the margin in the popular vote down to the size of his inauguration crowd.

Sure, not all Nader voters would've voted for Gore and not all Stein voters would've voted for Clinton. And yes, you're right about Johnson and McMullin, but I was simply responding to the idea that Stein voters didn't "make the difference", when in fact, her vote totals in the three states that mattered were greater than the D-R margin.