Fmr Speaker Boehner says the GOP will not repeal Obamacare

[#TheShadowyAbyss]

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http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/john-boehner-obamacare-republicans-235303

[Santander]

Man, I love this guy. Zero f***s left to give.

[Lexii, harbinger of chaos and sexual anarchy]

Can the GOP agree on anything about the ACA other than "Obamacare Bad!"?

[Maxwell]

Can the GOP agree on anything about the ACA other than "Obamacare Bad!"?

apparently they never thought that through. shocking.

[jaichind]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-republicans-obamacare-repeal-package-235343

Looks like the GOP package will include

1) Removal of  individual mandate but penalties for individuals who fail to maintain coverage continuously. If their coverage lapses and they decide to re-enroll, they would have to pay a 30 percent boost in premiums for a year.
2) Removal of subsidies for insurance and replace them with tax credits
3) Eliminate Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion
4) Removal of the extra taxes on 250K+ income (excellent)
5) Recreation of high risk pools
6) Cap the tax exemption for employer sponsored insurance at the 90th percentile of current premiums
7) Allow insurers to charge older customers up to five times as much as their younger counterparts. Currently, they can only charge them three times as much in premiums.

[7,052,770]

As long as insurers can't charge more (/ deny coverage altogether) based on health status, Obamacare lives. Everything else is window dressing.

[America Needs R'hllor]

Man, I love this guy. Zero f***s left to give.

I have to agree with this part about him. I like his honesty now that his career ended.

[The Other Castro]

Honestly they could just pass a bill changing the name, call it a repeal, and the base would eat it up.

[jaichind]

As long as insurers can't charge more (/ deny coverage altogether) based on health status, Obamacare lives. Everything else is window dressing.

I mostly agree with this. This is why I am hoping they can chip away at that as well. For example, insurance companies are allowed to charge more to being a smokers.  Hopefully they add other types of exceptions like this based on other aspects of health status.  We will see.  I think the fact that the GOP leaked plan will re-create high risk polls seems to indicate they will make progress moving away from community rating.  One can only hope.

[True Federalist (진정한 연방 주의자)]

Getting rid of the mandate while keeping guaranteed issue will kill the individual market.  Unfortunately there are way too many people who won't get insurance if the penalty they face is pushed off to an unspecified future, so under a plan like this, only the sick will have an incentive to get individual insurance.  Worse, the fixed subsidy will mean that sick individuals will end up paying way more when the individual insurance market craters rather the sick government that caused it to crater.

Also, unless the tax credit is not going to be fully refundable, there's no point in not having it be available during the year unless the idea is to keep poor people from getting insurance. (Not having it be fully refundable is also a way to keep the poor uninsured, just more blatantly so.) The working poor generally can't afford to pay the costs upfront, even if they would get them back at the end of the year via a tax credit.  I dare say that many middle class tax payers would have a tough time managing that were they paying the full costs themselves instead of being covered by employer subsidized insurance.

While the plan being put forth here is generally better than what was available pre-ACA, this isn't the pre-ACA era.  Voters aren't going to compare what happens to them to what was the case eight years ago, they'll compare to what was the case two years ago.

[Sumner 1868]

So much for the "keeping all his promises" rhetoric. This is the crown jewel of their wish list.

[Devout Centrist]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-republicans-obamacare-repeal-package-235343

Looks like the GOP package will include

1) Removal of  individual mandate but penalties for individuals who fail to maintain coverage continuously. If their coverage lapses and they decide to re-enroll, they would have to pay a 30 percent boost in premiums for a year.
2) Removal of subsidies for insurance and replace them with tax credits
3) Eliminate Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion
4) Removal of the extra taxes on 250K+ income (excellent)
5) Recreation of high risk pools
6) Cap the tax exemption for employer sponsored insurance at the 90th percentile of current premiums
7) Allow insurers to charge older customers up to five times as much as their younger counterparts. Currently, they can only charge them three times as much in premiums.

But the Freedom Caucus will probably balk anyway.

[World politics is up Schmitt creek]

As long as insurers can't charge more (/ deny coverage altogether) based on health status, Obamacare lives. Everything else is window dressing.

I mostly agree with this. This is why I am hoping they can chip away at that as well. For example, insurance companies are allowed to charge more to being a smokers.  Hopefully they add other types of exceptions like this based on other aspects of health status.  We will see.  I think the fact that the GOP leaked plan will re-create high risk polls seems to indicate they will make progress moving away from community rating.  One can only hope.

[Gass3268]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-republicans-obamacare-repeal-package-235343

Looks like the GOP package will include

1) Removal of  individual mandate but penalties for individuals who fail to maintain coverage continuously. If their coverage lapses and they decide to re-enroll, they would have to pay a 30 percent boost in premiums for a year.
2) Removal of subsidies for insurance and replace them with tax credits
3) Eliminate Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion
4) Removal of the extra taxes on 250K+ income (excellent)
5) Recreation of high risk pools
6) Cap the tax exemption for employer sponsored insurance at the 90th percentile of current premiums
7) Allow insurers to charge older customers up to five times as much as their younger counterparts. Currently, they can only charge them three times as much in premiums.

But the Freedom Caucus will probably balk anyway.

#3 is also impossible to get through the Senate as you have multiple Senators (Murkowski, Collins, Moore Capito, Cassidy) who all say they won't support a replacement plan that eliminates the Medicaid expansion. Yet if you keep the expansion you lose the far right and libertarian senators (Cruz, Lee, Paul, etc).

[Shadows]

http://www.politico.com/story/2017/02/house-republicans-obamacare-repeal-package-235343

Looks like the GOP package will include

1) Removal of  individual mandate but penalties for individuals who fail to maintain coverage continuously. If their coverage lapses and they decide to re-enroll, they would have to pay a 30 percent boost in premiums for a year.
2) Removal of subsidies for insurance and replace them with tax credits
3) Eliminate Obamacare’s Medicaid expansion
4) Removal of the extra taxes on 250K+ income (excellent)
5) Recreation of high risk pools
6) Cap the tax exemption for employer sponsored insurance at the 90th percentile of current premiums
7) Allow insurers to charge older customers up to five times as much as their younger counterparts. Currently, they can only charge them three times as much in premiums.

But the Freedom Caucus will probably balk anyway.

#3 is also impossible to get through the Senate as you have multiple Senators (Murkowski, Collins, Moore Capito, Cassidy) who all say they won't support a replacement plan that eliminates the Medicaid expansion. Yet if you keep the expansion you lose the far right and libertarian senators (Cruz, Lee, Paul, etc).

The plan is terrible & will cause many more deaths including many in Red states & they will massive backlash. If they go for this, they will be negatively impacted in elections !